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I am looking to mine on my laptop at night to try get enough to fund at least part of a mullvad VPN account. I need a miner and wallet that doesn't care about age and will let me turn mining off when I'm using my laptop.

What would you recommend?

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[–] monerobull@monero.town 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The easiest way would be to use the gupax.io miner or the p2pool miner built into the Monero GUI wallet (i believe this requires you to run a node though) :)

[–] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does running a node constitute?

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Running a full-node itself is easy, but before running it, you need to download a huge file, like 100 GB (?), which may take a lot of time depending on your bandwidth (first time only). Monero GUI already has everything you need. If your gaming machine has a faster CPU, you may want to use it :)

PS: Don’t worry, things like "signing up" "registration" "your ID" "KYC" "permission" etc. are not necessary. No one asks your age, gender, name, phone number, etc. You’re free to have a wallet, send and receive XMR, start/stop running a node, start/stop p2pool'ing—totally privately, secretly, and anonymously. That’s why Monero is called privacy coin. Ni estas liberaj homoj (Esperanto: “We are free people”).

[–] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, 100gb is too big. That's like half my partition

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No problem. You can simply use a remote node.

[–] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any tutorials I can use? I'm new to this stuff

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry if I'm saying the same thing over and over but would I need a seperate wallet? Also can I turn the miner off then I need my hardware?

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your main address starting from 4 is visible to everyone. If that’s okay, you can use your existing XMR wallet. If not okay, create a new one for mining. XMR will be sent to this address.

I think it’s perhaps okay even if you shut down your machine ungracefully. Since you’re not a full node, you don’t have a lot of files that you don’t want to be corrupt. That said, it’s safer to stop mining tools before shutting down your machine.

[–] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So overnight mining isn't possible?

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

You mean, like, starting at 10 pm and ending at 6 am next day? That’s totally possible. You can start whenever you like; you can stop whenever you like. Perhaps not very efficient, yet it is perfectly possible. You can stop just after a few minutes if needed. (When you know you can resume soon, hit [p] on xmrig, to resume hit [r].)

Xmrig wants to use a lot of memory. You may want to reboot before starting mining, so that your memory is cleanly free.

As for 5 EUR/mo, that depends on your hashrate. 1–2 EUR should be definitely possible. The only way to tell is actually trying. When not lucky, you might not get anything for a week. When you’re lucky, you might receive XMR 2+ times a day. There is also a “raffle” thing (some kind of bonus). Never tried it myself, but it seems you can register anonymously.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, no mocnero miner cares about age so your good their. I would also say gupax is the way to go. You could setup xmrig and p2pool manually of course but its harder. What OS is your laptop running?

[–] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have windows 10 that's for gaming and homework only so no

I also have Linux mint

[–] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 1 year ago

@sleepybisexual @shortwavesurfer Also another note,
More miners == less money;
Less miners == more money;
More uptime == more money;
Less uptime == less money;

[–] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@sleepybisexual @shortwavesurfer P2pool is the easiest, they have 4 step instructions to follow, easy peasy, just a command line copy paste. Would recommend that because they don't tax you in their mining pool, but I would recommend to donate atleast tiny percent, kinda feels bad though. 😅

Also note that its impossible to benefit from it, not just p2pool but the other rest, but be minded that mining it helps their network, so it's more like of a "good will".

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

impossible to benefit

He was worried about his age, so he’s likely to be young, which means perhaps he has “free (gratis) electricity” = pure benefit at no cost

[–] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Saki Sure just ran the pc mining rig in the background, while your parents sweating and toiling away to get monthly salary to keep their freeloader ungrateful son of b**** under their same roof. 😅

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well, his nick suggests he’s in a minority group. He wants to use VPN and he wants to pay secretly, which could mean various delicate/difficult situations.

@sleepybisexual For your privacy, use Tor Browser whenever possible. If you just need an exit node in a specific country, I could tell you how to do that w/ Tor Browser.

[–] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 1 year ago

@Saki Why would you even suggest such a low I.Q. Mind numbing brain fart dumb idea of a thing? It's too f**king stoopid you ain't scamming people for that! I feel sorry for you that I had to tell you these. 😂

Why would anyone want a specific exit node? They're designed to be random.

More importantly exit node compromises just means SAY BYE BYE to Your BITCOIN Money!
👋🐶

Please stop tryna become a wannabe hacker, try other field of works, okay.

[–] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Saki Why would you even suggest such a low I.Q. Mind numbing brain fart dumb idea of a thing? It's too f**king stoopid you ain't scamming people for that! I feel sorry for you that I had to tell you these. 😂

Why would anyone want a specific exit node? They're designed to be random.

More importantly exit node compromises just means SAY BYE BYE to Your BITCOIN Money!
👋🐶

Please stop tryna become a wannabe hacker, try other field of works, okay.
Maybe a respectable one.

[–] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tor is not the tool for my situation, I need actual network speed. Accounts will be involved rendering tor useless. Sorry if thus is rude but while I suck at it I know what opsec is and not to use sign in on tor

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t be sorry, so you do need VPN. Monero.town is Tor-friendly. You can use it perfectly via TB.

[–] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

This place (a Lemmy instance) is called monero.town. Many of Monero-related websites are friendly to Tor Browser (TB), including this place.

[–] mylikes@stranger.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@sleepybisexual @shortwavesurfer "impossible to benefit"
why mine monero?

  1. To buy art comissions,
  2. To buy online services like VPN(Mullvad), Cloud Servers (Vultr), In some lucky part of the places they sell foods.
  3. Monerujo, easiest IRL(In real life)transaction, and can convert monero(XMR) to any coins like btc, eth, ltc, dash, doge coins, because of sideshift.ai service and it is opensource no pyramid scheme and no potential malicious closed source codes. It also has QR scan codes.
[–] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sleepybisexual @shortwavesurfer
4. Because it's only for cpu, the community has atleast of a power to become decentralized, rather than some fat guy in a tuxedo smoking their million dollar cigars rolling on asics to centralized their mining operations, they can't mine with asics.
5. To buy Based T-shirts from Mental Outlaw.
6. literally 1984
7. For me, I mine because my country ran by lazy f*cks who won't give me valid IDs and that's why I can't get a bank account and a job.
8. You muzt mine.

[–] melano@kolektiva.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mylikes@stranger.social 1 points 1 year ago

@melano @sleepybisexual @shortwavesurfer If I tell, they might waterboard me into loving Big Brother. Regardless, Glory to my country! ✊💕

[–] Metatron@monero.town 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hi, at the moment sideshift does not working on monerujo

[–] mylikes@stranger.social -1 points 1 year ago

@Metatron Did you just make a new account? You kinda smell fishy, anyway wait for your node to sync, most common problems I've encountered.

[–] crab@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago

As others have said, check out the windows guide on gupax.io. Come back if you have any more questions

[–] mylikes@stranger.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sleepybisexual Don't use windows executables files for mining, you can't even open to check and see that source codes,

just use linux, much transparent and your earnings are not getting split up.

[–] sleepybisexual@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't like using windows. What are some Linux tools? With overnight mining can I make say 5 euro a month?

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

Welcome back :) Many tools (incl. p2pool & xmrig) are both cross platform. The same command line works for both.

While windows version is free (open-source) too, it’s obvious better to do that on GNU/Linux. What matters most is CPU speed.