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Gmail prompt to provide phone number sounds like a threat

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[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dumb take. All it's warning you is that without those, you won't have a way to recover your account it you lose your password or if it's hacked and someone changes it.

[–] Matomo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm all for bashing companies regarding privacy and whatnot, but this is just informing/warning you about account security.

[–] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Creating a new Google account isn't even possible without a phone number anymore. I had a new account which I didn't use in a while and it decided I need some old phone number to confirm my log in. There's no way to log in, recover or delete the account. There's no way I'm putting my daily account to that risk by giving them whatever phone number I have now

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

You could lose access to your X years of Gmail history with 2FA enabled if you lose your phone.

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google can close your email account down at any time for any stupid reason they like and their nonexistant support will leave you standing in the rain without access to years of mails. Switch to a paid mailer with actual support ASAP

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I once paid for Lavabit email and it was then raided by the NSA/CIA/FBI (Snowden case) and they shut everything down. I lost access to my account and to a 3rd party account that had a considerable amount of money pending withdrawal. I was never able to get the money. Lesson learnt: paying for your email won't save you.

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Ya, never trust US companies. Their government's crazy to jump in and take anything they want; you may not even know they took it.

[–] patchwork@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

With all do respect friend, I'm assuming most of us here that really care about privacy ditched Gmail very early in our privacy journey. I think virtually every policy Google enforces, including phone validation has some element of data collection in mind. We can debate whether providing the phone number is an information grab or a security measure, but I'm fairly certain it's both to some degree. If one cares enough about privacy to post in this community please start looking for a privacy respecting email provider, then start abandoning Google services like the plague at a pace you can tolerate. Don't move too fast on your journey, the inconvenience is rough, but liberating your digital life is priceless one step at a time.

[–] ono@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can confirm.

Google locked me out of my account for not giving them my phone number. Even though I used the correct password. Even though I verified myself through the recovery email, which has been the same for ages. Even though I wasn't using a VPN or connecting from a public network. Even though there was no reason to think my account or credentials were compromised.

They are, in fact, extorting phone numbers from people.

Thankfully, I don't depend on my google account for anything, but I'm still stuck receiving spam forwarded by gmail, because I can't log in to turn off forwarding. (I'll probably have to filter it out at some point.) I honestly hope they just delete my account after some months without a phone number.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago

Ransomware is getting smarter by the day!

[–] maniel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BuT cOrPoRaTiOnS tRaCk YoUr LoCaTiOn If yOu GiVe ThEm YouR nUmBeR

Like they'd need your phone number to do that when you probably already have a smartphone with Facebook installed

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of us don't install proprietary software..

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No it doesn't. It means that your email is encrypted and they don't have a way to unlock it. If you don't add recovery info or print out your unlock codes, you will lose access. Just like it says.

2FA is more secure.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

What are you talking about? Google is not encrypting their emails, where did you get that info from?