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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They need social media posts too. Highlight the terrible shit that happened, the jobs lost, the terrible covid response, and ask them if thats what they want for this brewing bird flu pandemic again and to have to weather that with even less jobs.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There’s a lot more than that to draw from.

Trump repealed 112 climate regulations, left the Paris Climate Agreement, left the WHO, repealed trans care anti-discrimination law, repealed gay rights to beneficiaries, enacted Title 42 and the Muslim ban, repealed the law prohibiting Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory, repealed Net Neutrality, provided tax cuts to the wealthy that further widened our already exploitative wealth inequality, increased tariffs on goods costing the consumers, repealed the ACA without replacement, seated the conservatives in SCOTUS that repealed Roe v. Wade…

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These are all great examples and would work for any human being with an ounce of responsibility and empathy. Unfortunately, most people I have tried to convince to vote for Biden, only care that shit is cheap and taxes are low. We need to attack them from their angles if we want to change their minds. And you'll never convince business owners that more taxes is good they can't see past their profits. Its garbage, and its why Trump is popular. Because we somehow have this fucked up swing where shitty Republican policies go into effect when democrats are in office and good responsible democratic policies go into effect when the dipshit Republicans are in office. Making this circus worse.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

That’s true. His tax plan was worse for small businesses and independent contractors. It largely favored the wealthy and corporations. It favored the minority of Americans, so it’s definitely more a problem of awareness than of benefit.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You need social media to elect the next president of the united states. I hate this world.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

"You need large communication platforms to get your message out to hundreds of millions of people"

I dont hate this world, I hate those who make it what it is today. It can be beautiful. Its forced to be hell.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 5 months ago

person on social media confused as to why social media is an important and effective means of communication

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Don't just highlight the terrible shit that happened. Biden's done some things and helped a lot of people. I think they should do ads showing ordinary folks who Biden helped out, in the format of Apple's old "Switch" ad campaign.

Normal folks standing in front of a white background talking about who they are and how Biden helped them. "My student loans were just... gone." "I'm a railroad worker and now I have vacation days."

At the end, it's Biden standing with them saying "I'm Joe Biden and I approve this message."

If Democrats need to fall in love, maybe woo them a bit.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 13 points 5 months ago

Good old TV ads

Everyone knows! That is the way

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I've already purchased 1 Biden

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub -4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Stop doing a genocide that has his base livid with him?

[–] Countess425@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I didn't realize Joe Biden was the Prime Minister of Israel

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know if “I’m not the man pulling the trigger, just providing the guns, ammo, 2000 pound bombs to maim and kill children and run cover against the international community (including shooting down a giant swarm of Iranian missiles)” is as strong of a argument as you think it is. Biden is instrumental in Israel’s genocide. Without Biden’s unconditional support Israel would have to stop.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Without Biden’s unconditional support Israel would have to stop.

How did you come to that conclusion? Israel has their own arms production, and many current and potential allies who would step in.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -3 points 5 months ago

Lol

Nah

What they do have is the world's most unsecret nuclear stockpile. If Israel wants to have peace, they can acknowledge Palestinian sovereignity and then close their new borders.

They aren't under threat from the neighboring states, much less some rebels with AKs.

But they don't want that. They want to do a genocide.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Without Biden’s unconditional support Israel would have to stop.

I’d LOVE to see you show your work on this.

[–] teletext@reddthat.com 5 points 5 months ago

Have you ever seen Biden and Netanjahu in the same room? Makes you think ...

[–] xerazal@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago

Reagan and Bush senior told Israel to cut it out when they were overstepping and Israel straightened the fuck up.

If conservative presidents can do it, so can Biden.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

They honestly believe he’s the president of the entire world it seems.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’ve always thought expecting any US President to upend 70 years of foreign policy is silly. The US being a reliable ally is very important on the world stage, this stuff changes slowly.

Undermining Biden because he isn’t pulling the rug from under Israel is stupid and ignores the big picture of geopolitics. Not to mention helps trump, which will turn Gaza into a parking lot and enstate Christo-fascist theocracy.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That would be the normal, sane, reaction.

If Israel wasn't currently engaged in massive war crimes. All of our allies are coming around on this, leaving just us shielding Israel from any consequences.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And the wheels are turning on waning US support. Public opinion has turned against us being involved, albeit for different reasons.

Biden has been critical of Israel, I agree we should stop supplying weapons and funding but those decision rest more in congress than directly with Biden. And they won’t be made quickly.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Actually Congress doesn't have a say in this without passing a new law. Biden has the power to stop weapon shipments today. He already stopped the 2,000 lb and 500 lb bomb shipment. Which is also a tacit acknowledgement that they know Netanyahu is committing war crimes and thus is ineligible for any military aid under the Leahy Law and Foreign Assistance Act.

Biden has the legal power to announce the suspension of all military aid and sales to Israel right now.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The “doing a genocide” thing comes off as incredibly immature and cringy as hell.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh but actually doing a genocide is fine. Just make sure you use proper English when talking about it?

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

While I appreciate your example of what a shitty strawman argument looks like, I never asked for one.

Either point out the location in my statement where I said “doing a genocide is fine” or admit you have nothing to offer the conversation, and are here to troll as usual.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You've plastered your opinion that you're willing to commit genocide for domestic political gain all over these boards.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Show me where or admit you’re a fucking troll. And I’m not talking about your batshit-insane interpretations of anything you disagree with being in support of genocide.

I’m asking you to prove I have said anything even remotely similar to what you’re accusing me of.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Here you go. I especially love the ones where you specifically threaten us with Trump or where you accuse us of "holding our votes hostage for one issue". That issue being... Genocide.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

So… you have absolutely nothing to offer. Fantastic!

Thanks for playing, troll!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think anyone looking at your post history will find more than enough evidence.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Right… so. Given that… anyone looking will see me responding to bad faith MAGA trolls and Russian bots that plague this site… like you.

If you can accuse me of shit- I can defend myself with accusations of my own.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure thing buddy. Maybe you should think about how many people you're willing to sacrifice for that political gain instead of accusing everyone who disagrees with you.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I’ll do that when you finally come around to understanding that all of your anti-Biden bullshit is going to get even more Palestinians killed.

But you already know that.

Better yet- I’ll do that when you admit you don’t give a shit about it.

Oh, and you have the nerve to say: “accusing everyone that disagrees with you.”

Fucking hilarious coming from someone who thinks everyone here that’s not left of left is a gEnOciDe sUpPorTeR!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fact that you think even more will die says you don't understand the scale of what's going on.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fact that you know what Trump will do there and don’t care, says your concern over what happens to them is fake.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Keep pretending