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Donald Trump was ridiculed Saturday after attending what his campaign called a Black roundtable at a Detroit church — with photos showing a largely white audience.

Trump’s campaign reached out to the 180 Church to set up the event at which attendees asked a handful of questions before bursting into a rendition of Happy Birthday.

The evangelical church is in the heart of Detroit’s west side and has a mainly Black congregation.

But photos caught by the media, and shared widely online, showed a lot of white people in the audience.

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[–] ZeroCool@vger.social 138 points 5 months ago (3 children)

More images from reporters on various social media:

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 96 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Oh my god, I saw a meme about this and I didn’t think it was really a photo from the event.

God he sucks

[–] Steve@startrek.website 24 points 5 months ago

I thought it was fake too

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-paper-shoe/

If you'd put this in a satire movie circa 2014 people would have called it too over the top.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 81 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I thought it was disrespectful to wear your hat in church. Huh.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's historically disrespectful for (men) to wear a hat indoors in quite a few buildings. That guy there looks like he'd be old enough to know better.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And iirc the historical reason it's not disrespectful for women to keep their hat on is that hats were much more integrated into women's hairdos. So, it'd be a whole production of removing hat pins, re-arranging curls, etc.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That might be part of it and seems practical. I think another was that men taking off a helmet/lifting a visor was a thing - similar to (possible?) origins of the handshake - military men signifying they mean no harm.

Norms change over time - used to be, until JFK, there was even more rituals conformed to around men and hats until he came along. JFK was apparently blamed for men mostly abandoning the hat, but apparently that was building before he came along...in today's world, I don't know that it makes a whole lot of sense for something decorative like a hat to have all these rules only apply to one gender...might have been a time when someone got the vapors over a guy not removing his hat when he entered a library, church, etc...but I suppose that sort of thing is fading nearly daily. People don't always wear a suit and tie everywhere, either...

While it doesn't really exude "classy" vibes to have some guy sitting in a church wearing a hat, or, even worse, a hat with a slogan most Americans associate with a hate group, but if violating fading fashion norms was all these people were doing, I doubt too many would care.

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[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

That's an interesting theory but there are many churches where women are supposed to put on a hat especially for church.

Probably it has more to do with this rather ridiculous passage from Corinthians:

Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.

5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. Source 1 Corinthians 11: 2-16

@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"that guy"? The are dozens of them... This isn't a church service, it's clearly a cult service.

[–] ExFed@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

From what I remember, it is

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The guy wouldn't even take his RED HAT in the church.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Looks like there were several men in there wearing hats. The hat "rules" don't apply to women, but I see a few women wearing that hat, too.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I saw someone wearing a Maga hat at their kids highschool graduation this past week. I just can't fathom how someone is so cringe that they can't put politics aside to be happy for their kid.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 87 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Would be interesting to find out how many were paid to attend also.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

Ask Alex Jones. I hear he's an expert on the subject.

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[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In a different article, a report spoke to 8 black people in attendance. Of the 8 only 1 lived in the Detroit area and none were members of that church.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

why would he expect white people to not follow him in there

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 11 points 5 months ago

Trump arrived at the event bragging about meeting the church’s pastor, Lorenzo Sewell, but then failed to recognize that the man was sitting beside him.

Clown.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is funny to see him shout about lies and scam when there is publicly available evidence on the contrary.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Literally since day one.

Remember the origin of "Alternative Facts?". It was Kellyanne Conway on Meet the Press Sunday after Trumps inauguration. She was claiming that despite the rain, crowds were bigger than Obama's, even though photos and transit statistics say otherwise.

Really set the tone for the rest of the administration.

Oh well. Ignorance is strength.

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