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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 74 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Calling strep pyogenes “flesh eating bacteria” is fear mongering. This is the strep throat bacteria. Not good to have by any means, but you’re not getting necrotizing fasciitis just because you come into contact with S. pyogenes.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

S. Pyogenes can objectively cause nec fasc and toxic shock syndrome, both of which are life threatening. 20-30% of NEC fasc is Type 2 which is primarily S. Pyogenes or Staph.

S.Pyogenes is also one of the main bacteria that cause type 1 nec fasc which is around 70% of cases.

Calling it 'just strep throat bacteria' is inaccurate.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Necrotizing fasciitis isn’t what’s occurring in Japan. Those points you make are not wrong but they’re not applicable to what’s happening. Referring to what’s happening there as an outbreak of “flesh eating bacteria” is incorrect. That’s not the disease that’s occurring. If they were trying to be accurate rather than sensational, they’d say its a bacteria that causes toxic shock syndrome. It’s also literally due to more sore throat cases: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japan-warns-surge-potentially-deadly-strep-throat-cases-2024-03-26/

Across the country, infections of streptococcus bacteria of the throat are being diagnosed at quadruple the pace of the past five years, according to a health ministry report earlier this month.

Through March 10, Japan recorded 474 cases of the more serious streptococcal toxic shock syndrome (SSTS), which has a fatality rate of up to 30%. This syndrome happens when the infection spreads throughout the body, potentially causing organ failure.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I remember not that long ago hearing about a spread of a new disease spreading across a nation. I said "Ah, it's fine. It'll be contained, and nobody will even remember it.....

8 months later the world was shut down.

[–] einkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Except these bacteria are nothing new.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But they may thrive more at higher global temperatures.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They may also not survive as well.

Ia there evidence they will thrive more at higher temperatures? Or are we just trying to find things to be negative about?

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Yes, actually. This specific bacteria thrives at 95f when cultured in labs.

It's a bacteria that is able to live inside humans, after all.

Microbes also evolve faster than humans. Meaning they'll adapt to higher temperatures faster than our body temperature will. Making humans more susceptible to bacteria like this one, as climate change continues.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

What is new is that the bacteria is becoming more predominate.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Would you like some extra mongering with your fear today?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Okay sir....tell me when...

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

Texas has had these for a while, similar fearmongering then too

[–] siperjff@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The "good" thing about it killing rapidly is there is less chance of it spreading. So I would not expect another global pandemic from it.

Although the bad thing is still that if you do get it, your chances of survival aren't good...

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

God, I hope it doesn’t spread, because then people will keep saying global pandemic.

Pandemic already means global.

It’s like saying Mariachi Band, or ATM Machine.

[–] bruce965@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

For what it's worth, I always prefer being redundant if it makes the meaning clearer to a non-native speaker audience.

For instance I didn't know "pandemic" implicitly meant "global". In my ignorance I thought you could have a localized pandemic. But by saying "global pandemic" it makes it more obvious to everyone, including those who, like me, didn't know.

Also I'll personally keep saying "my phone had an LCD display" because it feels smoother than "my phone has a LCD".

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

"LCD screen" might satisfy you and be non-redundant.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think a "localized pandemic" is an epidemic.

[–] bruce965@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Ah right, that makes sense. Today I learned.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

This is an important hint around all the jargon that anglos grew up repeating; and I only sometimes realize how deeply it pervades our speech.

"So I had to hit the ATM for a PATH ticket to get to SoHo and venmo a new LCD for my s20 instead of hopping the turnstile but I found some susy-Bs in my 505s so I was mint" could make perfect sense to an anglo (living in Jersey City) but to an Icelander there's not much context to help dereference all the jargon.

Saying "'ATM' machine", with the jargon explained a bit, could definitely help. I gotta be less of a pedantic dick.

[–] DinosaurSr@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Even for native speakers! If I told my parents to get a new LCD they'd think I was telling them to buy drugs.

[–] ErilElidor@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago
[–] explore_broaden@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

(of a disease) existing in almost all of an area or in almost all of a group of people, animals, or plants

“An area” could be a country, a Canadian pandemic is possible just as a global pandemic is.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

And we'd apologize for it, of course.

[–] null@slrpnk.net -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Pandemic already means global.

No it doesn't.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

‘pandemic is defined as “an epidemic occurring worldwide, or over a very wide area, crossing international boundaries and usually affecting a large number of people”’

From an article on the national institute of health, specifically about the definition of a pandemic. And how the old definition of it being a global disease that spreads rapidly may not be effective anymore with flu strains due to vaccines.

[–] null@slrpnk.net -1 points 5 months ago

or over a very wide area

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Oh shit, Bloomberg found us out! Cancel the robot uprising! The humans know!