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[–] MacGuffin94@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The problem with TEXIT is the same with BREXIT and pretty much any libertarian policy in that it expects so many things to stay the same.

As soon as this happens, assuming the US take direct military action, all the US bases are gone. Same with all defense contractors. Technology companies are gone too, they do not want to go through the headache of working with the US a foreign company. That's Texas Instruments and HP.

Taxes will skyrocket. They will lose all the US tax subsidies that allow them to have no state income tax and now they need to replace all military personnel and infrastructure.

They will probably not bottom out but they aren't going to be a world power. They will pretty much be Spain in terms of economy.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

You assume America would just casually let that happen. It's one thing to leave a multinational body, that doesn't cost you citizens and can be (incorrectly) argued that it would benefit The UK. There would be no benefit to America if they let Texas secede so they won't allow it. So if America won't allow it then Texas would have to secede by force

I guarantee you the moment a drone strike hits a Houston suburb a whole bunch of wealthy Republicans will realize playing revolutionary isn't nearly as fun as it sounds. Shortly after most of the people in the state would gladly roll over to come back to America

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[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Texas lost the right to secede in The Civil War.

[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

Or rather, was found to have never had the right to secede in the first place. Any vote to leave is less a declaration of secession and more a declaration of a war of independence against the United States.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 37 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Ugh, I'm in the category of "can't afford to leave Texas but can't survive if I stay."

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm staying in my sea of blue until I retire or they manage to do something idiotic like actually leave and start a fucking war with the all the military bases here.

I'm selfish, so I'm gonna need you to survive because you're funny as shit and understand the dumb things I say on here.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm assuming you're either in Austin or Houston. If you're in Austin, meet me at my place and we'll carpool to salvation. If you're in Houston, I'll meet you at yours. If we take any interstate other than 10, it'll only be a lateral move.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

H-Town, but I wouldn't mind heading over to Austin. Salvation on 34th? I haven't been in more than a decade and didn't even know they were still open. I remember it was delicious, but I stopped having a reason to go to Austin when my brother moved to Corpus so he could surf more often.

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

Can you guys hurry it up? Is there a GoFundMe I can donate to?

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This sounds great to the base and a few wealthy dudes, but this is a real bad thing for literally everyone including Republicans - if they somehow did leave, it'd turn the remaining US permanently blue, plus they would immediately be invaded for their oil...

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

It's not bad for everyone, the Kremlin and CCP are thrilled by this kind of thing.

[–] e_t_@kbin.pithyphrase.net 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Texas would find itself a majority brown-skinned country with oil. You know, the kind of country the United States loves to "spread democracy" to.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good luck with that. It'd be hilarious if Texas succeeded and then came crawling back within a decade.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

The US wouldn't negotiate with a treasonous state.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pussy ass Texans won't do it, no balls.

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

GOP knows it too. They'd lose +13 R seats in Congress and +2 R seats in the Senate. As well as 38 votes in the EC, which despite Texas becoming more purple hasn't gone D in a presidential election since 76. Taking Texas out of the equation could easily make both chambers and the executive D.

[–] Lightrider@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago

I hate it here. #votepirate

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Quick! I need a MAN to MURDER a bunch of Children so I can Pretend I care about the Constitution again!

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Abbot just creamed his chair and he doesn't even know why.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a shame that they never went to school. If they had an elementary level education they would know what happens to successionists.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Remember the Alamo!

But not the "why" of the Alamo.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Let mexico have them. Those drug cartels would own them in no time. What was left would be no match for the true genius that is the current president of mexico.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Mexico would have to get in line. An oil rich independent nation with minimal defenses right on our border? They'll be a protectorate within minutes, and PR can take their place as a state.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

And leave the protection of the UN and NATO? Mexico will love this -- and the land.

[–] Breve@pawb.social 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If Texas left the US, wouldn't that be a massive blow to the federal Republican party losing all those electoral college votes and seats in the legislature?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Very few people of above average intelligence, have ever accused the GOP of having common sense..

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 months ago

I think this comes up every year or so and never amounts to anything other than some headlines and a bump in Republican rah-rah.

However, when I follow this line of thinking to its conclusion it scares the shit out of me. It ends with armed militia showing up at my home to "enlist" my kids to be cannon fodder for these assholes' holy war against the Yankee libs.

The feeling of inevitably and helplessness is crushing.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Would it only be Texas though? Is there a chance that other US states might also join along with them, not because they wanted to secede before, but because the GOP is a cult and they can convince their people to go along with anything? Plus, how many military personnel would “defect” over to this new Texas Republic? The idea of Texas leaving and trying to go it alone against the rest of the current US is fairly one-sided, but what if Texas peels away a sizable chunk of the US with it? I wouldn’t doubt that Trump would support it if it meant saving his skin from all the trials he’s involved in (though given the status of most of them it may not be necessary).

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The entire US South is broke.

Completely broke. Like they can't survive without the blue states.

Even if all the southern coastal states left they'd still be broke.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago

Any state with ruling Republicans is likely to try and follow suit, as Texas leaving would mean they no longer have to votes to win a majority in federal congress or the executive ever again.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Tell them they can go if they take Musk with them.

[–] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Please someone get me out of this state before it descends into literal chaos

[–] Starb3an@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's the reason I'm working so hard to get my degree. More prospects elsewhere when I have a degree. Hopefully all the way out of the US.

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[–] londos@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Is Texas going to pay for the additional wall?

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Someones give me a little pros and cons list if they secede. What do they offer the country?

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

No aid required next time their state freezes

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 2 points 5 months ago

cons - they have no legal right to secede and the US government won't let them. It would not be pretty.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Good. Just remember to extract anything federal before they leave.

[–] Maeve@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

I'm curious how Texas will handle "natural" disaster without proper tax structure and federal funding.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Their cause has been helped by a surge in tensions between Texan authorities and the federal government over the past few months, particularly over illegal migration and education.

On its official website the Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM), which campaigns for the state to leave the Union in a move it dubs TEXIT, said: "The inclusion of these planks in the Republican Party of Texas Platform is a major step that could have far-reaching implications for the TEXIT movement in the next legislative session."

Newsweek contacted Texas Governor Greg Abbott for comment on Wednesday by email outside of usual business hours.

The Republican Party of Texas first backed calls for an independence referendum as part of its legislative platform in 2022, after it was approved by members at its convention that year in Houston.

In January the Supreme Court ruled razor wire placed along the Texas-Mexico border on the orders of Governor Abbott could be removed by federal agents.

Then in May, Governor Abbott instructed universities and community colleges in his state to ignore an update to Title IX equality legislation introduced by the Biden administration which would ban discrimination based on gender identity.


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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

points at scoreboard

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