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Someone posted this on ssc with a warning about talking to cops, but really just marvel at what's going on here.

Aaronson manages to turn a story where he is briefly arrested for a theft (which he did commit on video!) into paragraphs and paragraphs of indulging in his persecution fantasies.

Zero empathy on display for the people he stole from, the people just doing their jobs, or reflection on the fact that it wasn't a simple little mistake anyone could make but rather... a fairly weird move? Do people usually put change in cups?

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[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

god damn, the only part of this post I’m sure happened as written is that this asshole absolutely stole $4 in change on purpose just to see what would happen

But I try to remind myself every day that the human race doesn’t consist solely of Arthur Chus (or Amanda Marcottes, or Lubos Motls, or SneerClub posters, or Paul Manaforts or Donald Trumps). The world contains millions of women and men of every background and ideology who want actual dialogue, many of whom I’m lucky to count as friends, many of whom I met through this blog. Vulnerability is possible because the world is not uniformly evil.

—but regardless, it’s absolutely somehow our fault. drink!

also I found the actual reason why all of this happened, but Scott buried it in a giant block of text so I’m gonna have to reconstruct a little bullet point timeline:

  • when we did arrive, (barely) on time, the contemptuous American Airlines counter staff deliberately refused to check us in, chatting as we stewed impotently, so that we’d no longer be on time and they could legally give our seats away to others, and strand us in an airport with two young kids.
  • the only replacement flight was in a different terminal. * in the stress of switching terminals–everything is stressful with two kids in an airport–I lost our suitcase.
  • the only shuttle to get back to the terminal went around the long way, and was slow as molasses, and by the time I returned our suitcase had been taken by the bomb squad

so this absolute dipshit started a fight with an airline employee over a flight he was too late to catch (for utterly dipshitted reasons I’ve omitted, see the original post), somehow lost a suitcase, left it unattended for so long that the fucking bomb squad had to be called (which involves automatic confiscation of the suitcase, shutting down the terminal it was left in, and usually detention and a stiff fine for the owner of the luggage — this is usually a big enough problem that it makes the local news), then was caught stealing from a shop after a long day of being belligerent and breaking TSA policy. how is our sweet child not in prison?

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago

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[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

addendum: the cops and TSA involved in the above are also absolute dipshits, I’m just shocked that they managed to be out-dipshitted by a single Scott Aaronson

I also feel bad for the airline employee, who was more than likely just doing their best

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

we did arrive, (barely) on time, the contemptuous American Airlines counter staff deliberately refused to check us in, chatting as we stewed impotently

Major 'I'd like to speak to your manager' vibes.

No empathy for the employees, their little mistakes are assumed to be deliberate, but when the same is assumed of him, the big burley men are here to take the nerds away, I knew it.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago

how is our sweet child not in prison?

Maybe he's not as persecuted as he thinks? Waving cash around helps apparently.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

Likewise, Arthur Chu recently tweeted that he’s “unhappy about [my] continued existence”–i.e., on a straightforward reading, that he wants me to die.

The tweet was a reply to Aaronson saying (in part),

Far be it from me to psychoanalyze him, as he constantly does to me, but Chu's unremitting viciousness doesn't strike me as coming from a place of any great happiness with his life. So I say: may even Mr. Chu find whatever he's looking for.

To which Chu replied,

I am unhappy about many things, including the continued existence, wealth and social status afforded to men like you, and the cheesy sentimentality is not reciprocated

I.e., on a straightforward reading, he was talking about "existence" in the sense of lifestyle, not life. (The OED gives "sheltered existence" as an example of this meaning, which I find apt.)

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

it’s only a matter of time until big, scary armed guys come for me, as they came for so many other nerdy misfits.

Citation most definitely needed.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

“Your answers are rambling and all over the place. Stop making up stories. We know you did it.”

Well, this is accurate, but not about how cops speak ime

The rest of that…good lord, it’s like babby’s first run-in with this kinda crap. Not sure they’ll realize the critics have a point, tho

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

My experiences with cops have ranged from the comically absurd to the "I just have to close my eyes and I can still taste the pepper spray", so hey, I'm plenty prepared to be sympathetic with Scott Aa here. But boy did he ever step on that hard.

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

Holy shit the nerd persecution complex on display here.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Post is from 2018...

Here's the HN discussion (he's a bit of a hero there)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17717816

Lots of people lawyering that taking from a tip jar isn't stealing as the money technically does not belong to anyone lol.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

There's some actual gold in there

If Aaronson was capable of respectful communication then when the smoothie person got angry at him he would have considered the possibility that the anger was warranted and he had done something wrong. And probably would have pretty quickly realized: "oh wait I'm putting down money on this tray that I just picked up money from... that doesn't make any sense." But instead he immediately jumped to: "there's something wrong with this smoothie shop worker" Everyone would have been saved a ton of grief if Aaronson had any respect for the people around him or any self awareness. But he has neither.

a person who repeatedly fails to execute fairly simple tasks in an airport that is specifically designed to make everything as strait [sic] forward as possible is otherwise a very successful human.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago

Oh, and note that this time they "Came After Scott Aaronson" (waves hands around all spooky like) SVSS didn't write another 'Untitled' screed, but against cops instead if feminists. Just saying.