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OSM > Google Maps (files.catbox.moe)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by wallmenis@lemmy.one to c/memes@lemmy.world
 

As requested by https://lemmy.one/u/brbposting@sh.itjust.works in the comment section of https://lemmy.world/post/16245139

OP I will delete this if you desire.

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 76 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I went to a place ane someone had posted a photo of the employee pay starting rates and tagged is as a menu. A regional manager cost $95K.

[–] ElCanut@jlai.lu 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'll have two regional managers and a water then

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

A regional manager cost $95K.

When you say it like that, I'm suddenly thinking of politicians for some reason 🤔

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 5 months ago (2 children)

can you actually? does OSM have data about restaurants etc?

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 36 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There are a lot of tags that can be used about restaurants: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drestaurant#Tags_used_in_combination

But it depends on which client display which tags.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Which client is good for android? Especially if I want to edit?

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

OSMAnd works quiet fine after you logged in. There are probably better ons, but I use it for specificall editing tags.

Be sure to checkout StreetComplete, which is a great way to contribute to OSM, especially for beginners.

This is unfortunately not for contributing photos.

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 5 months ago

I tried OSMAnd but it's so fucking slow despite having already downloaded the map. Organic Maps is so much faster and smoother.

[–] WR5@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Also wondering this

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Also curious. I tried a couple that just did not work well or were painful to use without premium.

If I can't tell if I like it for free, I'm not going to pay.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

Vespucci is awesome. I've used it extensively for years. It's only for editing though, not for navigation. I use OsmAnd (free pro features on f-droid)

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't use the same clients for viewing and editing.

I mostly use OSMAnd for viewing (but it can do editing too). To edit I use StreetComplete for easy, gamified, contribution and Vespucci if I need a full on editor. StreetComplete only ask you missing information about the things around you, if I want to add something new I use Vespucci).

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago

but it can do editing too

Oh?

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago

The only tag for a menu is:

website:menu=* – url to menu of the restaurant (pdf or webpage)

So there's no way to just upload a photo of the menu when you visit. And if a restaurant doesn't have a website with a menu, there's no way to add a menu.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

Basically no, you can't upload pictures. Even if you could add menu prices (I didn't check) it's not easy enough for enough people to bother, and will easily go out of date quickly. If it was as simple as uploading a photo it would be viable.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I need to give it another shot. I couldn't find anything last time I tried to use it

[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then you can upload it. Be the change you wish to see in the world.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah or alternatively just use the free service that already has all the data

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago

You can contribute. It doesn’t take much to have all your favourite spots listed. You can try rapid editor.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago

OSM for the win!

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wanted to like osm but the apps were all quite janky last time I looked. Way too much effort to get something clean and usable.

[–] Inductor@feddit.de 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Have you tried Organic Maps? Works pretty well for me.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I can give it a look. I doubt it has much where I live unfortunately because I'm not in a major metro area. That was another problem with OSM for me. Very incomplete due to lack of users in the area.

EDIT: I take it back, it already looks more complete than I would have expected. I'm surprised! This one does look quite a bit better than the other ones I tried so I'll see what I think. Appreciate the suggestion.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

+1 for Organic Maps. Shame it's not open source, but still. Ideal for walking and travelling.

Edit: I stand corrected!

[–] Inductor@feddit.de 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It is open source, licensed under the Apache License 2.0.

EDIT: Found it on f-droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/app.organicmaps/

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] wallmenis@lemmy.one 2 points 5 months ago
[–] tubbadu@lemmy.kde.social 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which client can I use to do this easily?

[–] wallmenis@lemmy.one 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There isnt any that I am aware of. But i think you can upload in the official osm website...

[–] End0fLine@programming.dev 9 points 5 months ago

I contribute a bit and as far as I know the only editor that lets you upload pictures is MapComplete, but even then what you can upload them for is very limited. I do not believe OSM actually has an image database. The pictures I’ve uploaded are all stored on Imgur.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's a fine idea but feels like it's maybe past its prime in terms of active maintenance? Like I checked out my old neighborhood in the suburbs of a large US city and the primary road through it (which the area is named after and has a very big visible welcome sign indicating that) was misspelled. I don't have an account and didn't care to learn how to edit it, but I did drop a note flagging the error. Then I browsed some of the other notes and noticed they were all multiple years old. Even Manhattan was littered with months- or years-old notes with only a handful of them marked resolved. Maybe they were just hard edge cases not easily fixed, but it gave the impression of a database that has not been broadly maintained for years.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 months ago

The resolved ones get removed so the harder and harder notes remain. The main obstacle is usully that someone needs to actually go to the location, take notes and edit the map. It's a lot of work.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Please consider creating an account and contributing occasionally. In the site OpenStreetMap.orgthe edit mode is very intuitive and easy, in addition there's Street Complete that makes a fun, quest like gamification for editing and adding information

[–] lol_idk@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
[–] wallmenis@lemmy.one 1 points 5 months ago

You are a real hero bud!

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I tried OSM and it didn't bring me joy.

[–] Hubi@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The maps are pretty nice but the navigation is terrible (at least on OsmAnd). I tried to use it in my car for a while but I probably ended up spending a third more on gas because the routes were so bad.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it’s a cool idea, but IMHO, it’s going to need more members and a lot more money donated to the foundation for it to get really good. Good mapping is hard to do on the cheap. You need a lot of hardware and dedicated people.

[–] Hubi@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You also need telemetry and analytics to improve your real time navigation, which is understandably a big no-go for many people in the open source community.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

You probably don’t really need to know a who someone is to pull that off. You just need to know how quickly and effectively anonymous vehicles move through a particular area at a particular time. Cities have been analyzing this stuff with dumb cables and loops embedded in streets for decades.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Do you use an app? If so which?

[–] RayJW@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

Organic Maps is by far the best client imho and it has a special outdoor layer when on trails.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Organic maps is simple and easy. If you want a power tool, OsmAnd is amazing.

[–] Hellstormy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I'd love to know too

[–] stoi@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

OK but how do I post to open street maps with photos? Can I do it from organic maps?