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[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 105 points 5 months ago (3 children)

"No end to Gaza war until ’destruction’ of Hamas"

Proceeds to bomb children's hospital instead of Hamas

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No, no, you don't understand. The children were Hamas

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bombing everyone in Gaza is a great way to turn many of them into hamas. How are those kids going to grow up sane and normal and make peace with Israel? Imagine a whole society with PTSD, it's horrifying. Israel knows this too, which is they want to protect themselves through genocide. They really do think those kids are hamas.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Once they've turned everyone to Hamas they can justify their genocide that way. Or they can just keep genociding anyway and claim it's because they heard Hamas was in the hospitals, the schools, the universities, the people's homes, the shops, the refugee camps, the streets, etc.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 15 points 5 months ago

... the ambulances, the random US warship passing by, their own tanks ...

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[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago

"No end to Gaza war until ’destruction’ of Hamas"

But don't worry though, it's definitely not a genocide.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

No, you see the pediatric doctors were seen talking to Hamas heath ministry officials so they're terrorists too! And it's really their fault because when they talked to the kids that made them Hamas as well. Sadly killing everyone is the only option left.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 83 points 5 months ago (47 children)

Which essentially makes it a forever war. Israel's defenders keep saying this too- the war will end when Hamas is destroyed.

Every child killed creates a potential new Hamas member. Netanyahu knows this.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He’s taking a page from the Torah. One of the ways to completely eliminate your enemy was to wipe their entire culture off the face of the earth so not even one child is left to grow up to be a potential threat.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is true. Israel benefits immensely each time there is a conflict -whether it's settlements or the upper hand in negotiations. The Palestinians are hurt the most and in a tough spot between Hamas and Israel. I'm not sure that either side will offer any concessions after Oct 7 but it would be in everyone's interest if Israel did offer concessions at this point because the cost of waging war indefinitely I don't think bodes well for them.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 64 points 5 months ago (9 children)

We are reading the same story every week now.

Hamas accepts a permanent ceasefire and Israel refuses. They should change up the script a bit.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

You forgot where Biden tries to say him and Israel have a path to peace but it's Hamas who won't work with them...

And within 24 hrs Bibi clarifying he only wants a "final solution" where none of his "enemies" are left alive, so no one should listen to Biden.

I'm pretty sure we're on double digit laps by now.

I just don't understand why Biden at this point is still saying shit, knowing Israel is going to immediately say the quiet part out loud again.

It's not.just that Biden won't stop funding this genocide, apparently him and his admin are the dumbest people ever. Even if they know what they're saying is bullshit, they always forget Israel will just say shit like this that blows up trying to blame it on anyone else.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Don't forget the israel shills talking about releasing the hostages to "end all this"

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[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago

No end to Gaza war until the destruction of Netanyahu

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 52 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Do take note that Biden's proposal from yesterday was supposedly drafted at Netanyahu's cabinet, according to the US government itself. Netanyahu now opposes their own initiative because he's decided it's not convenient for him to end the war just yet. This isn't some sort of principled attempt to paint himself as the protector of Israel, but a pathetic excuse of a man willing to sacrifice more lives for his own self interest.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

This is Netanyahu playing Biden like a fiddle.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Yeah but they're arab lives, so they don't count them.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

So he said out loud that he won't accept anything but a Final Solution?

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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Incase anyone here is not already aware, the war is causing Hamas. Word is that previously Hamas was caused by Netanyahu's direct support.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is ridiculous take. Hamas existed before the war and have been a terrorist organization for decades.

Criticize Israel and the handling of the war all you want, that is fair. But this white washing of Hamas as if they weren't deranged extremists is just ridiculous.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

white washing of Hamas

What? How do you read this as white-washing Hamas? My comment didn't claim Hamas was ever virtuous, infact it was entirely silent in text on if hams was good or not. I thought it was part of the subtext, but if it's not clear: Hamas is bad. The reason Netanyahu chose Hamas as his enemy is because they're evil and hard to cheer for, which makes the genocide easier.

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[–] DeLacue@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

It's a shame their definition of Hamas includes all Palestinians.

[–] urfavlaura@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ask your american friends how well a war against terrorism works.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't.

Sincerely, an Iraq/Afghanistan vet

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[–] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

See Also: The War on Drugs, The War on Terror.

Because those went well. Big success story.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Vietnam

Al Qaida

Even the US COVID response...

All were stopped eventually because the US government got bored and wanted to do something else. No winners. Only losers.

[–] MetalMartin@lemmy.myserv.one 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's only possible to eliminate Hamas if Israel pushes out or kills everyone in Gaza.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Isn't that what they're doing already? They don't differentiate between Palestinians and HAMAS anymore.

[–] Deway@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago
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[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Now, now Bibi. You wouldn't want to be compared to an Austrian art school dropout that orchestrated the death of some your ancestors now would you?

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lets hope Hamas don't start immigrating! Imagine Israel trying to catch them inside London, or Paris during the Olympics! So many innocent, but necessary lives would be sacrificed!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Many of them are already outside of Gaza's borders in Syria, Lebanon, etc. Is Israel going to start invading them?

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm afraid at this point it's obvious it's the other way around, and there is no end to the Gaza war until Israel is dismantled, its leaders are given the Gaddafi treatment, its settlers are hung and Palestine is restored.

[–] conquer4@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

That's what the Arab league has been saying for 70 years, people are finally listening to muslims now it seams

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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If he wants to destroy Hamas, what's the plan for someone else to take over after Hamas? Oh right, there is no plan for that. Whenever this war ends, Hamas will still be there and more powerful than ever, because that's exactly the strategy that is Israel is (wittingly or unwittingly) following.

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I'm under the impression that it's pretty evident that Israel is doing a land grab. They've been doing it since 1967.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

must be nice. you fund and create hamas to stop the pro peace PLO so that you can use their existence to perpetrate endless war

epecially when the palestinian authority warned you that calling an election would result in the ascension of hamas to power and israel and the us insisted on the election anyway.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

So, if that’s true, and Netanyahu helped fund Hamas… Does that make Netanyahu…. Hamas?

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