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“Not content with depriving girls and women of education, employment, and free movement, the Taliban also want to take from them parks and sport and now even nature, as we see from this latest ban on women visiting Band-e-Amir,” Human Rights Watch’s Associate Women’s Rights Director Heather Barr says.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

America should have armed and trained the women of Afghanistan, not the men.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

There's some truth to that. They have something to fight for, the men were fighting to free their own sex slaves and ban their own vices, no wonder they weren't motivated.

[–] crow@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve always wondered how a theocracy that follows it’s rules as strict as the Taliban can rationalize their terrible state and misfortune when the enemies of their god are what the religious would consider “blessed”.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a Muslim the idea that if you're a good person you'll have a good life doesn't exist, and there's actually a hadith stating that the stronger one's belief in Allah the more Allah tests one.

Also as a Muslim, those guys are making their own rules and then following them. I seriously have no idea where in the Quran or Sunnah they found "Don't let women visit national parks".

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I gathered, they claimed that allowing women in national parks meant losing control over them which led to some women not wearing their required head scarf.

They cannot tolerate the slightest slight, and don't think women should have any agency in the first place, so it's a very easy decision for them to simply imprison all women in the entire country to ensure they all keep their head scarf on.

But putting restrictions and practical imprisonment onto women for their entire life with harsh punishments for disobedience is hardly unique in Afghanistan.

The entire Muslim world is full of men who like to commit human rights violations of this specific kind. And a larger group; the vast majority of Muslim men, who favor this but don't act on it much beyond voicing their support.

Religion is horrible.

Islam is currently by far the worst one.

The mild existential comfort it grants to the weak is not worth the vast array of curses it comes with.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And a larger group; the vast majority of Muslim men, who favor this but don’t act on it much beyond voicing their support.

I'll just say that most of us are not like this, speaking as a Muslim guy from a Muslim country. Like seriously we've got some nutjobs here, but people who think women shouldn't be able to leave their homes are vanishingly rare (at the very least I've never seen any, and my social circle isn't particularly liberal).

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you support the legalization of abortion, such that the only required consent is that of the pregnant woman?

If not, then yes, you are like that; you're just doing a slightly better job of hiding your contempt for women. Slightly.

[–] garden_boi@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously though, people are not black-and-white. You cannot just state some random criterion and postulate that whoever doesn't match it, is just as bad as the Taliban themselves. Black-and-white is never how real life works.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Real life is full of oppressors and I'm sick and tired of tolerating them. Spare me your excuses and get with the program.