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[–] owatnext@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago
[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

As someone learning Japanese I'd recomend you not learn from duolingo

For Japanese use genki, them quartet

I am currently going through genki

[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Renshuu is also really great if you're willing to pay a little bit - it's like Japanese Genki with a built-in community!

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you give more detail about why you don't like duolingo and why you do like genki?

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

To expand on why I don't like duolingo it's because you can't structure the lessons and the material to work best for you

Genki and quartet which I will do after genki is part of my own personalised lesson structure

By gathering your own resources you can structure the lessons best for you

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What to use for French? Anyone got an idea?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

The back of cereal boxes. Worked for me, I can order Cheerios in half the known world.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I second that for Chinese. Use HelloChinese.

[–] squidspinachfootball@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Does that include lessons for Canto by any chance? Or just Mando?

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Just mandarin. There’s not many resources for Cantonese that I found when searching. You’re likely best off hiring a tutor.

[–] ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Das gefΓ€llt mir garnicht.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago

gar nicht*

not related to garnish.

[–] Jubei_K_08@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

French and existential ennui, name a better duo.

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago
[–] klemptor@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago

Lemmy and beans

Also lemmy and jeans

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

As long as you have completed your lesson the bird won't murder your family, so you've got that going for you at least.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ce n'est pas un mème. Ce sont mes sentiments!

[–] degen@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I took a few years of French forever ago. Never really understood when to use ce over il, along with all the hyphenated forms ce is pushed into.

Personally, I always tried to translate back literally, so qu'est-ce que c'est -> what is it/this that it/this is. But I've also felt like this isn't the best approach given it's through the lens of an English speaker.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think ce Is formal, so I use it in that context?

[–] degen@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That makes sense. I always took it as ce is a more general "it" while il refers more to people or places, but I'm sure that doesn't always hold true. And apparently ce is only used as a subject with Γͺtre for the most part. I'm too analytical to just understand without digging in lol

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

french is such a headache, but, then again, so is english. it's just that english is more forgiving when you mess up, lol

but, yeah... 'ce' is (iirc) a more formal declarative when speaking generally to an audience rather than when speaking conversationally with another person.

eventually, a native french speaker is going to come in and admonish the both of us for manglish their language, lol

[–] degen@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago

I want to venture into some of the french speaking parts of lemmy, but I'm scared and it's been waaaay too long lmao. And I definitely wish I could just "get" it like I get english (for the most part), but idk the hopes of that for a second language. Probably have to move to France lol

Like even the way native speakers type and talk is nowhere near "proper" most of the time, but it's the language. And I wish I could do that in french, ya know? Hey, maybe Quebec will do!

Aaand I upset the native french speaker even more now.

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

Pro tip: Don't be sad, be angry.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

Finally, language learning with real world applications

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 4 points 6 months ago

Okay, but have you ever tried being sad even though rationally speaking everything is going super well? ( Don't worry about me, I managed to get out of that vibe :3 )

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Estoy triste porque todo va mal.

Just wanted to practice my Spanish here.

[–] Jubei_K_08@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good use of "estoy" πŸ‘πŸ˜Ž

Gracias mi amigo.

[–] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not that it matters because the point comes across fine, and being hyper fixated on grammar is a form of gatekeeping, but β€œbadly” seems weird here. It might just be an American English or regional American thing to me, but in school, the whole good/well & bad/poor thing was made pretty distinct. Good and bad were descriptors of action where well and poor were descriptors of feeling. I can do good (things) or do bad (things), but things can go well or go poorly.

Grammar stackexchange seems to disagree with me though

[–] quicksand@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

As an American, I would definitely use poorly in this context. But since it seems they're an English speaker learning French, I think it makes sense to say badly. It's a more direct translation for mal, the word they're learning

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago