Saw that one post (unfortunately). How come people who spread content like that in the "open" internet (not darkweb) don't get arrested?
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Iβm gone for a few days and some assholes trying to fuck up this instance. Smh.
These bad actors are wierd, most who spread CSAM dont want to be known about by the masses, these posts are implied to be attempting to be visible as their posting in a well known community. It feels Sus.
Keep up the good work keeping us safe, keep your therapist and/or support network in the loop about this so they can catch you if you fall.
This sucks, but we were probably due to have a Grand Registration Security Hash-Out at some point; going forward, any instance that wants others to federate with it is probably going to have to have a system in place to make it impossible for jackasses like this to create endless spam accounts.
This is seriously fucked up, but won't closing lemmyshitpost just lead them to target other LW communities?
Probably unrelated but I once saw that community get attacked with scat porn, it could be the same person.
There's also another issue. If you upload an image to Lemmy but then cancel, the image is still hosted on the Lemmy instance and one can still access it if one copies the image's URL before canceling. This basically means that there might be other illegal stuff that's being hosted on Lemmy instances without anyone noticing.
It's one of the few things Reddit handles the situation better by being a centralized entity with a dedicated workforce filtering out these content. It's a shame it has to be this way, but I understand why it has to be done.
Isn't there semi-automated tools that can detect CP?
Those might be an automated solution to at least cut down on the volume.
The same can go for banned images. These can automatically be identified with perceptual hashing, and automatically be denied when uploading.
We should just track these people and send them the police directly, way more efficient than Symptom control.
This is so fucked, but this brings up a question -- is this something to be concerned about for instances federated with lemmy.world? As in, if something like this is uploaded to a community that the instance federates with, their instance will now have a copy as well?
yes
Many instances deleted all pictures for the last 24-48h as a precaution or shut down entirely.
It is absolutely ghastly to realise that something like this was inevitable.
Thank you for being willing to deal with this. Godspeed.
Wow, this is awful. Huge cudos to y'all for holding on through this. It's obviously a deliberate attack on the fediverse by malicious actors.
I am wondering what kind of moderation tools would be needed.
On the top of my head, I'd say a trust-level system would be great, both for instances and users. New instances and users start out on a low trust level. Posts and commemts federated by them could be set to require approval or get deranked compared to other posts and comments. In time the trust-level increases and the content is shown as usual. If an incident occurs and content is getting reported, the trust level decreases again and eventually will have to be approved first again.
You can couple that with a reporting-trust-level. If a report is legitimate, future report will hold more weight, while illegitimate reports will make future reports hold less.
Ya'll are going through one of the worst situations I could imagine, but I'm confident you will figure it out and come out better for it. Keep your heads up. (P.S. - Sorry about the scat, lol)
That is awful.
Anyone got any idea why they are doing this? Seems a bit extreme.
Potential sabotage. Thereβs definitely a corporate interest in killing the Fediverse and getting people like you and me back to Reddit and Twitter.
Plus for outside groups with potential interest who arenβt informed of the situation, Lemmy is now branded as that CSAM site so people are not as likely to come here and or leave their established mainstream social platforms
This is sabotage on another level. The people posting this faces seriously time in jail for just having it on their PC.
Lads, as a casual Lemmy user, just how much danger am I in of having my mind permanently incinerated by seeing images of children being sexually tortured? I've been using the net since the mid-90s and I have never seen a single piece of CSAM in that time, and I now realise that I've been insanely lucky in that regard. My mind is already host to all manner of unspeakable internet shit (looking at you, cartels), but I don't think I could endure seeing anything like the stuff those evil fucking degenerate nihilist cunts have on their hard drives. I would want to commit murder.
So, stay the hell off Lemmy or... ?
Look I unfortunately ran into one of these pieces of content, and I think it will still with me forever. I think it's because I sort by "New" in order to try and help promote the good undiscovered content. As long as you focus on Hot/Active, I think you'll be fine.
Sincerely appreciate your work to better this instance and the fediverse in it's entirely.
The only word I can think of is "disgusting", and that is far from strong enough.
All I can is that I'm sorry this is happening to you guys. Are there specific ways others can help?
Why would someone post that crap? If youβve been banning and removing posts all day that seems like someone is malicious trying to do it to get Lemmy in trouble. I donβt know, just a guess but someone needs to go to prison for doing that.
Yeah I don't blame you for being frustrated