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Hello everyone,

We unfortunately have to close the !lemmyshitpost community for the time being. We have been fighting the CSAM (Child Sexual Assault Material) posts all day but there is nothing we can do because they will just post from another instance since we changed our registration policy.

We keep working on a solution, we have a few things in the works but that won't help us now.

Thank you for your understanding and apologies to our users, moderators and admins of other instances who had to deal with this.

Edit: @Striker@lemmy.world the moderator of the affected community made a post apologizing for what happened. But this could not be stopped even with 10 moderators. And if it wasn't his community it would have been another one. And it is clear this could happen on any instance.

But we will not give up. We are lucky to have a very dedicated team and we can hopefully make an announcement about what's next very soon.

Edit 2: removed that bit about the moderator tools. That came out a bit harsher than how we meant it. It's been a long day and having to deal with this kind of stuff got some of us a bit salty to say the least. Remember we also had to deal with people posting scat not too long ago so this isn't the first time we felt helpless. Anyway, I hope we can announce something more positive soon.

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Lads, as a casual Lemmy user, just how much danger am I in of having my mind permanently incinerated by seeing images of children being sexually tortured? I've been using the net since the mid-90s and I have never seen a single piece of CSAM in that time, and I now realise that I've been insanely lucky in that regard. My mind is already host to all manner of unspeakable internet shit (looking at you, cartels), but I don't think I could endure seeing anything like the stuff those evil fucking degenerate nihilist cunts have on their hard drives. I would want to commit murder.

So, stay the hell off Lemmy or... ?

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Look I unfortunately ran into one of these pieces of content, and I think it will still with me forever. I think it's because I sort by "New" in order to try and help promote the good undiscovered content. As long as you focus on Hot/Active, I think you'll be fine.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

Sorry to hear that..

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Sorry for your troubles :( that's shit

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd avoid hot. Unlike Reddit's sort of the same name, Lemmy's hot gives a lot of weight to brand new posts. I regularly saw lots of posts with no votes when I used it. Active or top is probably safer. Though admittedly, if someone is using bots to post content, they could use bots to upvote, too. Lemmy has pretty much nothing to prevent even basic botting. The way federation works is actually way worse for the ability to prevent bots, because bots just need any insecure instance and can spin up their own instance in minutes if they can't find an existing insecure one (at the cost of burning a domain).

[–] Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

I think I saw someone mention this before. Apparently hot sorts by the hottest posts of the communities. So if there's a brand new community its first post will be at the top of hot because its the hottest post that community has had.

[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

From my experience, using "new" is dangerous on any platform. I've seen so many cursed thumbnails on youtube...

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just read another comment saying that posts were showing up in hot / active somehow despite being heavily downvoted. It wouldn't surprise me TBH. Hot / active always seems to be buggy.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's not a bug, it's just lack of content. You can downvote that shit, but if there's no other content to stack "on top" of it, well, it can't go any lower.

[–] 2d@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you’re just browsing the front page/hot you should be fine, nothing awful will make it there

[–] XylightNotAdmin@lemmy.xylight.dev 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unless they use vote manipulation

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

If they could, they would have used that already

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if "they" is just one person or entity.

[–] Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Highly likely. Someone is mad about something.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's an unusual vulnerability. Highly successful. No technical expertise required. No resources required. Rapidly propagating. Infects users & hosters alike. Real world consequences for infected.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Some level of technical expertise is required or they're going to prison. The Lemmy web server logs are all there. Email address associated with sign up is there. IP address used to create the email address is logged and so on.

[–] Lakija@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Same as you. I have avoided it this far. I think Imma back up for a little while. I cannot, cannot see that shit.

I’ll just go outside and read a book.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm kind of the same in regards to this bullshit. Of all the crazy shit I've seen during my time on the web; I have never crossed any CSAM. Am I lucky?... probably yes. But is someone(s) being fucking trash and deserves a slow horrible dismemberment, like I've seen online before... I also say yes

They're trolling with that shit, which means they can find that shit (which I haven't come across in my almost 30 years of interwebs use)... and I don't give a shit about "the point" they're trying to troll; because they're contributing to it, at the end of the day. They think they're fucking HaXzOR fuckwits, that found an easy way to cause turmoil?

Welcome. To. The. Fucking. Internet.

Keep that shit up, and they're gonna get got. It's low effort, beyond fucking despicable, and they deserve to rot for even entertaining that approach. And they SHOULD be fucking scared; cause they're on everyone's radar, and I can promise you that they're not as fucking smart as they think

It means to me that they're fucking dumb, (beyond) degenerate, and that they WILL get absolutely fucked by the majority, if they don't slink back to their fucking gutter... and quick. I can promise you that people who give a shit about it and can do something... they're already hunting them down. It's like the type of person that thinks "swatting" people is "LoLz", until they end up in "pound me up the ass" federal-fucking-prison, because they can't conceive the fact that they're not the only one(s) who know how to "use the interwebs"

Fuck around, piss off the right people, and find the fuck out. Think governments don't have the resources to find your ass, when enough reports have been made? Their days are fucking numbered in my eyes, if they don't backstep... but they've already opened a door to be found, so good fucking luck.

So, will I stay the hell off Lemmy? Nah. Just don't sort "by new" for now, until they inevitably get cornered. And they better pray they get cornered by the authorities and not by someone(s) who's got the time to ruin every inch of their being.

Fuck terrorists. And fuck them. Any shit I see is going straight to the proper authority; and the authorities aren't dumb. And with enough reports?... they're gonna go for the source, not the unwilling bystander(s).

This is a feeble attempt at division and fear. Fuck fear... and good luck. Best hope they don't get caught by the hands of someone who's better. They're "playing an ace" when they don't know a god damn thing about cards

Don't sort by new for now; I don't wanna see that shit either. But I'll be damned if I scroll on by (if I do see one) without helping the hammer get slammed down on them. Just a matter of time for those little bitches, if they wanna keep playing with fire.

Fuck them, they should be scared. I'm good here.

And I've got time. Fuck it, I'll make time just to watch them burn. I've dealt with enough bullshit in my life, that I have the energy to contribute to any small bits that I can.

They should be the ones cowering; not us. They made the mistake and I hope they reap what they sow