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My default buying process is research + spreadsheet creation, this time thought I'd ask the community here if you have any experience / wisdom with garage door openers. Thanks for any help!

Additional info: Single car garage built in the 1950s in the U.S. The current opener is a lift master, just eyeballing it probably from the 90s. The door could be original? I don't know. It's wood, seems fairly substantial.

Yesterday and this morning started having issues with the door just stopping in the middle of opening or closing. When it stops, the remote button becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. When it starts moving again it goes the other direction so you have to keep pressing and try to get it to close/open before it stops again. This morning I ended up pulling it down part of the way because I'd gone through several rounds of up, down, up, down. It doesn't seem to want to move manually which isn't surprising. Worried my car is going to get stuck in there before work so I figure should probably be proactive here.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Before you replace the opener, make sure your door is still working properly.

You should have some kind of manual disconnect of the opener from the door (sometimes a red rope dangling). Once you've confirmed you've disengaged the opener, with your hands try to lift the door up. It should be pretty easy. This should not be a struggle at all. Now try to pull it down. That too should also be easy and little muscle effort. You shouldn't need to exert much force either way because the springs on your door do most of the work.

If it is hard to lift either way, you have a door (or more likely spring) issue. Replacing your opener won't fix your problem. Get garage door service. Also, if you aren't REALLY REALLY experienced with garage door springs, don't mess with them. There is a tremendous amount of force stored in them, and if you do it wrong, all that energy will come out and once and could maim or kill you. Garage door service doesn't have to be crazy expensive. A couple hundred dollars is what it cost to have my springs replaced (parts included) a year or two ago.

Don't take chances with your life.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago

+1 on the “don’t touch the springs”. Those things are deadly like capacitors in tube TVs. I’ve seen one pop and go through a windshield and the seat of a car. Luckily no one was in it as I doubt a person would have offered much resistance to it.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It all depends on the springs. The side springs over the tracks have no tension on them when the door is up.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe just don’t mess with any garage door springs

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Mess with what you're comfortable with, but an untensioned side spring is just a curly piece of wire.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 21 points 5 months ago

It might not be the door opener. The door/springs/track may just need adjustment.

I would call your local hardware store and ask for a recommendation for a "garage door guy". Then follow his advice.

Be VERY careful with garage door springs! They can kill you. Torsion springs especially.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Chamberlain has an almost monopoly in this market.

Keep in mind that their “smart” openers do not integrate well with Siri, HomeKit, Homebridge, or similar platforms. They want you to use their app, so they can show you ads.

[–] Toes@ani.social 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The spring can kill you. Self repair and installation has potential to be rather treacherous.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Yup, definitely hire a specialist for it. Those springs are under hundreds of pounds of tension, and if they get loose they will split you open like a bullwhip hitting an orange.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I've retensioned a garage door spring. It's possible for an amateur with the right tools, after watching videos. But it is a bit scary.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My brother did overhead garage door install and repair for about 20 years. He will be the first one to tell you stop screwing with it. What might be a minor cost if you call right now could be a major cost if you keep screwing with it. He seen cases where had they called right away. It would have been the service call, plus a couple hundred dollars. Service call meaning trip charge.

Because they kept screwing with it it was a very large bill. If I remember right, the worst one was where he had to replace tracks, garage door opener, and I think there was even a panel he had to replace.

Another person said you can check the tracks to see if there’s something in it but beyond that. I'd just called a professional.

[–] nickmc@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Assuming you are asking for installation advice, please consider hiring a professional. I am no stranger to diy projects and thought I could adjust and fix mine on my own and ended up snapping the spring. I tried to figure out what to replace it with but ended up calling out a professional. The door now works far better than it ever did and I know I could not have done as good a job.

[–] bahbah23@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

You may just need to adjust the sensitivity of the safety reverse on the door, but to reiterate what everybody else is saying, working on garage doors tends to fall squarely into the camp of "if you have to ask, you need to hire a professional". I do a lot of DIY around my home the garage doors are something that I won't touch for anything but the most basic adjustments.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

It's probably just the springs. Take a look at them and visually see if any are broken. Just don't mess with them, they can be deadly.

I had a garage door company service mine last year. It was about $200 bucks to get a new spring installed.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Your stops are kicking in. Check the rollers and track, it's binding or there's something in it.

[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you clarify what style of garage door this is? I'm aware of two main styles: 1) a one-piece door which tilts upward, kinda like a doggy door, and 2) a door with four horizontal panels that rolls straight up on tracks. The first type has giant springs on the left and right, whereas the latter has an axial spring situated just above the door.

In both garage door styles, it should be the case that once the opener is disconnected, the door can be manually lifted and opened, to get the car out during a power cut. If this is not possible, something is wrong and the door itself needs to be serviced first, to avoid cascading issues.

If you do replace the opener, consider models which have a small backup battery, to operate when there's a power cut. The door must still be in working order, but the battery will slowly open the door using the remote control, as normal. Some openers have WiFi connectivity -- which I think is mostly a gimmick, except if there's an app to indicate if I've closed the garage door or not.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Many 4 panel roll up doors also have springs on either side.