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[–] psykick@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Stayed at an Airbnb last year where I left a ~4 star review taking off one star because of excessive noise from the bus stop outside (otherwise positive). Couple months later I get an email saying my review was removed for violating Airbnb policy. Had to contact support where they told me the host had submitted (fake) WhatsApp screenshots of me asking them for money to post a positive review and so they removed my review. No matter what I said customer support refused to reinstate my review. The most alarming thing is that they removed my review without any input from me. Interestingly, the property had added additional co-hosts where that property was their only property after my stay. Presumably these are fake profiles they used to file the dispute so it wouldn’t impact their main account.

In any case, I am never staying at an AirBnb again. Be aware that any rating on AirBnb can be easily manipulated by the host.

Also if you have status at a hotel, perks like room upgrades and late checkout are invaluable.

[–] winebaths@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Value proposition isn’t there anymore either, airbnbs used to be super affordable but now match the price of hotels and if they don’t are in inconvenient locations.

Not to mention the impact it has on local housing supply and pricing.

[–] johnnyjayjay@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pricing is still relevant, at least in Europe (from my experience). I've done a lot of low-budget traveling with small groups of students in France this year, and AirBnB was (unfortunately) consistently and significantly less expensive than hotels.

Also, many hotels don't give you access to a kitchen, which really sucks if you don't want to spend money eating out every day.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There are probably better local websites in the countries you're going to if you want apartments. I don't know any in France, but they have them in other countries. Ask around. Vacation destinations are literally all apartments for rent by tourists.

[–] johnnyjayjay@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ask around

All right. Do you know any for any European country?

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Yes. Adriatic.hr is good for Croatia.

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[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, the pricing still makes sense for larger groups of people.

There are far too many of these leeches taking up valuable housing in the most desirable part of my city

[–] Yap@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I can’t find a place to rent, but oh boy! look at all these temp stay airbnbs owned by vacation companies, my bad guess I should own a house.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Be aware that any rating on AirBnb can be easily manipulated by the host.

This is the same reason that Yelp is bullshit. And Amazon reviews. And pretty much any reviews you can find online. It's why people used the reddit search flag. Everything is gamed and manipulated. People suck.

[–] UnelectedReimu@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

now we can't even us reddit anymore

[–] LimitedBrain@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

Which is why reddit has been a target for gorilla marketing campaigns for a while now. I only trust review sites that I follow now

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Dang so all I have to do to scam is have another WhatsApp account and send myself threatening messages 😯

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 3 points 2 years ago

Turn your chicken coop into a 5 star Airbnb listing with one simple trick!

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Praxis would be to weaponize this and get your room comped while your staying at the Airbnb by having the host threaten you while your in the room. Karen's have taught me to fight these fuckers at their own games just for the trill

Sorry brainstorming

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also at a hotel: “It smells like smoke.” “Let me take you conveniently to another identical room for free.”

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago

Or any problem, really. I once had to move rooms twice because the AC wasn't working. In an Airbnb, you're boned

[–] JeffCraig@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They only reason I started using hotels again is because my fiance gets good deals and they usually upgrade us because she works in the industry 🙂

[–] Addfwyn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The pay isn't great (even in upper management, unless you are at corporate), but working in hospitality does have its advantages. It does make travel planning a lot easier.

[–] Orvanis@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

AirBNB is only good if it is an extremely unique/convenient location and there are no hotels reasonably nearby. Otherwise Hotel absolutely > AirBNB

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

225 a night hotel would be a freaking dream. Most hotels cost 100 a night. I agree a cabin in the woods our somewhere else special.

But landlords are putting up ordinary homes up and people actually rent them. More money then sense.

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

It’s useful for short term renting. I’m interning and it’s stupid hard to find a 3 month lease.

[–] JeffCraig@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My problem is that people talk as if these are the only options.

There are other services, like VRBO, that do the same thing and usually have the same properties. AirBNB is garbage now, so just use an alternative that doesn't have the same bad policies and high fees.

[–] MusketeerX@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah exactly.

I've stayed in apartments a lot when travelling, but I've never used AirBNB. Not because of any reason against them, but I've just tended to use other online services/sites.

[–] SolarNialamide@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed. If I'm going on vacation I avoid cities as much as possible and want to be in the middle of nowhere in nature. That means no hotels for 10s of kilometers, but there's usually at least one person renting out a room or something similar. I've also never experienced any of the things in this meme in places like that, but that could also be because it's an American thing, which wouldn't surprise me.

[–] bitcoin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Hotels are maybe good in the cities, when you need a simple boring room. But when you're out in the nature or wish to stay in the more interesting place, have a celebration for family/friends gathering - it's Air BnB all the way.

[–] Garrathian@fanaticus.social 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

AirBNB was great when it first started out. It was basically people renting out a room in their home for a night or two, for far cheaper costs than hotels and in areas where a hotel wasn't as readily available. It was a good way for those folks to make some cash on the side and helped the traveler find convenient low cost housing for a couple nights

Unfortunately companies and people decided they could buy up properties and start a business selling out rooms, prices skyrocketed and it no longer became worth it. I just stick to hotels now (or hostels if I ever decide to backpack through Europe or something)

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[–] jimmyjoners@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm just here to say fuck air bnb. Ban that shit for it's contribution to the housing crisis.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

In my neighborhood, half the houses are AirBnBs... Because we're close to tourist destinations. 4 of my 5 neighbors are AirBnBs.

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How do you even combat that ?

[–] medgremlin@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Enforce zoning regulations and apply rental laws or hotel regulations to Air BnBs. If you make them actually follow the rules, it suddenly becomes vastly less profitable.

[–] sijt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Enforcing is unfortunately really difficult because the incentives are too strong. We have rules here which are meant to prevent AirBnB and similar by limiting the number of nights any domestic property can be let in a year. So all the hosts just jump from site to site and change the descriptions slightly to get around it. And it's so brazen. They use the same photos and everything. The really organised ones have whole buildings and when you book they're non-specific about the unit you get, so it's very difficult to actually track which ones are rented at any point, particularly when the enforcement teams are so underfunded.

[–] medgremlin@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

See, this is why we need to divert over-bloated policing budgets to proper civil servants.

[–] bees_knees@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Eliminate zoning and other regulations that make it impossible to build sufficient housing supply.

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[–] somedude5@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I’ve never had this kind of bad experience with Airbnb

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Also Airbnb tends to kill communities by making it way too expensive for people to actually live there and sleeping in a complete stranger's house does not sound too safe.

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[–] Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It depends on what your after. If you take family (kids and dogs) then an AirBNB is useful and easier than hotel. When you book always read the reviews. YMMV

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Pet friendly hotels aren't even more expensive. There's one that's pet friendly hotel I went to half dozen times for work just because it was good value, and I wasn't even bringing any pets.

[–] DonRon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The strangest part is when the owner suddenly decides to spend the night in the apartment as well, even though you rented the whole apartment alone.

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