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[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Palestine was a territory of the Ottoman Empire at the time. Israel did not exist.

From what I can gather online there was a peasant revolt, but nothing sectarian about it. The Ottomans pillaged the villages during and after the revolt.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The movement towards Israeli as a state is a direct result of the actions of 1834, that's specifically why I mentioned it.

Then you didn't read.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1834_looting_of_Safed

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem with this opinion is that it's not based on fact: the Zionist movement originated in Europe as a result of pogroms there, not in the Middle East.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The problem with that opinion is it's not ~~hard~~ based on fact, the families that fled often ended up in Europe. ~~Still~~Some of which were later displaced again by pograms in Europe.

It's literally in the history of Zionism written by avowed Zionists. You might as well argue with water about how wet it may or may not be.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh?

The families that fled the Romans?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Modern Zionism ie the Zionism of the Israeli government is not based on Roman pograms though I'm sure some could indeed trace back that far. That said even making your argument proves my point further.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So who did they flee to end up in Europe?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Jesus Christ, respond at glacial speeds without being too bothered about doing any research yourself including apparently looking up like 5 comments.

Ed:

You're a moron, you'd think you'd at least remember your own point.

https://lemmy.world/comment/12692360

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not the ottomans if that's the point you're trying to make.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Couldn't even bother to read the linked comment after all that time.

You're lazy or dumb or both, either way go away dumb dumb.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah yes. The ottomans that existed during the Roman empire are to blame.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You really should read the comment chain dude. My point is that there is in fact 1000 years of conflict about it which you just proved.

Fall of Rome being 476ad-ish and today being over a thousand years later.

Good job. It's ok to be dumb and loud, that said dumb, loud and lazy is a bit problematic.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh yeah you're right. It was Hamas that blew up Herod's temple.