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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Your 'protest vote' for Jill Stein is really a vote for Donald Trump

And it always has been.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sometimes the Green Party protest vote is a vote for George H.W. Bush.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And George W. Bush.

And Donald Trump (the first time).

If the Green Party wasn't a thing, there would be a lot of elections that the Republicans wouldn't have won, because the margins were just that thin.

[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's assuming green party voters would vote for the dems, which probably isn't the case. They'd be more likely to just not vote.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

That could mean that 60% of the US leans green.

Or they're just apathetic and attaching a social meaning to their apathy feels good.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I agree with that estimation, but even then I'd say that the majority of Green Party voters who would decide to vote anyways would probably vote Dem over GOP, and that still matters.

Because only one of those parties is trying to deny me basic human rights, I can't say I'm sympathetic to anyone who would choose not to vote out of spite just because they don't personally have as much at stake.

[–] eacapesamsara@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You must not have been alive in the 90s or 00s if you think Dems wouldnt and dont want to deny your basic human rights

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I remember when the Dems repealed roe v Wade.

Oh wait that was trump and the GOP. My mistake.

I was definitely there when the dems tried to ban music based on it's offensive nature.

Oh wait that was Reagan and the GOP. My mistake.

I was there when the Dems banned foreign travelers based on nationality.

Oh wait that was trump and the GOP. My mistake.

[–] eacapesamsara@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago

Neither Dems nor the GOP did the first one, Dems did fail to ever codify the right to privacy or bodily autonomy though, despite every legal scholar for 50 years saying roe was a Shakey decision.

The second one never happened, unless you're confused by just the general existence of the FCC with your half remembered fantasy, and yes, I do remember when Dems fully supported banning travellers based on nationality, Biden cowrote that bill.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

she ran during obama as well so it was also, technically, a vote for mccain