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Sorry, but Biblical scholars' proof of the resurrection is from the Bible? You see how that's not convincing right?
God created sin and hell, it didn't need to do that. After three decades as a Christian, the best answer I could get to the question "Why did God make the universe and us in it?" was "so we could praise it for eternity in heaven." So it could have just created us in heaven already. Instead it created a whole universe of randomness and ever-increasing chaos, stuck us in it and said, "You better love me and follow these very specific, often inane and arbitrary rules, or I'll send you to this other place I made where all you feel is pain for eternity." The god of the Bible is an egomaniacal sadist and it's not worthy of your praise.
That's like saying our proof for Caesar is Caesar's writing. Now if I said Caesar's writings were true because he said so, that would be circular reasoning. But no, they are backed up by history. In the same way, the Bible can prove Christianity, but circular reasoning is when I try and use the Bible to prove itself because it says it's true. Although proof can lie within such as criteria of embarrassment, but mainly it's to how it relates to what else we know about that time, which is how it lines up. Unlike, for example, the book of mormon which is completely verifiably fake as it talks about systems in an ancient america which we know didn't exist
I'm taking that as tacit agreement that your god is an egomaniacal sadist but you don't mind cuz it's old, just fyi
How is He a sadist?
He created children and child rape, how is he not?
What's wrong with Children? And didn't we create that atrocity though by choosing to do that? He created sex to be between a consenting man and woman within marriage, not for using to abuse people.
No, by Christian understanding, god made the universe and everything in it. That includes the human capacity for causing pain to others. God also decided our sexual characteristics should fully develop a decade before our mental and emotional capacity, not how I would have done it. It also includes childhood leukemia, SIDS, hydrocephalopathy, measles, polio, diabetes, cystic fibrosis, multiple sclerosis, etc, etc, etc. If god wasn't a sadist, none of those things would exist. Either that or god didn't create them because it doesn't exist. These are the options available to you.
Those things happened because God cursed the earth after we turned against Him.
But by your own holy texts, it knew we would do that before the universe existed, much less the Garden of Eden. If it didn't, then it's not all-knowing, which means it's not God. Either way, it's not worthy of devotion or worship.
And if you want to live your life without God, God respects your decision eternally 👍
If you call lakes of fire, wailing and gnashing of teeth, and eternal damnation to complete separation from The Light "respect," then I totally get why you worship the dude. I guess he really did create you in his sadistic image. 😘