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[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I didn't defend OP at all. Go read the thread. I said telling someone to go fuck themselves wasn't really going to change anything.

Again, I didn't post the article, nor do I know anything about it or the poster.

And I stand by what I said: Telling someone to go fuck themselves isn't very helpful.

At no point did you condemn any of the morally bankrupt positions the article OP posted took, and then you went and said that you like Israel.

It's not my job to condemn, support, or even comment on an article someone else posts.

Also, just to be clear, I do like Israel. My girlfriend is Jewish, and I’ve been there—it's a beautiful place. That doesn’t mean I have to agree with their leaders or condone genocide.

By implying--actually saying--that I support genocide is a gross distortion of the facts and you should feel icky about yourself. All of this over me suggesting to you that telling someone to go fuck themselves wasn't helpful!?

And notice, I didn’t delete your comments—I left them up. I believe in diversity of opinion in that community.

There are going to be posts you don’t like, so accept it and move on. Or feel free to block the community or me. But don't lie and say I'm cool with genocide.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s not my job to condemn, support, or even comment on every article someone else posts

No, it certainly isn't. But the fact that you declined to respond to OP, and chose to respond to someone criticising OP instead is very telling about your priorities.

Also, just to be clear, I do like Israel. My girlfriend is Jewish, and I’ve been there—it’s a beautiful place. That doesn’t mean I have to agree with their leaders or condone genocide.

Ok, crazy hypothetical time here... let's say that we were discussing some other famous genocide. You can pick any one you'd like. And let's say that some piece of shit posted an article on the channel you moderate saying that "hey - actually it's not a genocide, it's just, like, pre-emptive self defence, guys", and someone calls that person out. If someone responds to that by saying: "Hey, I like <name_of_country>", would you take that to mean "I really like the rivers and hills, and I have a passing familiarity with the place", or would you not take the dumbest possible interpretation, and instead treat it as if instead of being a complete nonsequitor, it was in the context of the conversation to date? When you said: "I like Israel", it was in the context of Israel committing a genocide. Who gives a shit if the place is pretty? The conversation had nothing to do with how scenic the country is, but rather how terrible their government is.

By implying–actually saying–that I support genocide is a gross distortion of the facts and you should feel icky about yourself.

You want me to feel icky about interpreting the things you said in the way that makes the most sense? Maybe in the future, if you don't want to be misunderstood, be clear about what you're talking about, and don't try to weasel out of responsibility. Your entire whining response to me between that post and this boils down to you not taking responsibility for being obtuse.

I believe in diversity of opinion in that community.

Ah yes - classic liberal thinking: "People who deplore genocide and people who cheer it on should be equally heard!" Fuck you.

But don’t lie and say I support genocide.

Ok - condemn Israel, and condemn the poster who posted an apologetics piece about Israel's genocide. I don't give a shit how pretty you think the countryside of Israel is.