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[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Why is Charly Burke hated? Because she replaced Alara?

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

Replacing Alara didn’t help, and her PTSD aspect was really the most compelling per of her character. What really turned me off about her was how she could do everything. Need someone who can play 5 dimensional squidgyball? She’s already got her racket. The character was forced with poor writing to complete an arc too quickly. I like what the writers and show runners were trying and all, but the short seasons and long episode format weren’t great for telling that story.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Charly is hated because she looks like a Fox Newz Gurl on the bridge and it’s just too convenient. Her acting is fine but there was no discernible angle there - why? I only found out she was Seth MacFarlane’s girlfriend after the season was over. Then I was like “Oohhhhhhhh. So that’s what that was about”

Yeah.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Burke was a horrible racist and bigot who went against the entire point of the academy. If I can see her as an awful bigot, in her futuristic society she must have been the equivalent of a klan member. She was a horrible person through her entire existence and we're supposed to like her cause she redeemed herself in the last 10 seconds? Nah she sucks. Also she wasn't really a proper character, just a racist Alara clone

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In all fairness alot of it stemmed from the fact she watched her partner die after they were betrayed by a supposedly ally - trust from that wouldn't come back quickly.

Would have liked to see the series carry on a bit more though

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago
  1. amanda wasn't her partner, she was a crush that she never approached

  2. she wasn't on the Orville, so Isaac wasn't an ally to her - just a bumfuck rando sleeper agent on another ship. One who turned against his own people to stop an armada, which meant precisely jack and shit to her self involved pain.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get that. But if she's that compromised, she should never have been on active duty and serving alongside the race she was prejudice against.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Extention level threat, qualified officer, not injured who can serve. Predjiced against said event.

100% would be allowed to stay.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Frustratingly, her entire kaylon aggro arc would have worked spectacularly with Gordon. They dropped a couple of aborted hints to this end.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Gordon was such a badass and a great character, so happy we're getting a new season

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

By the end of the series he had proven himself tougher than anyone in that crew.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Because she had untreated PTSD and hated the robots who killed her best friend/lover/whatever.

And then she was rude to a robot belonging to the same group as the ones who killed her best friend/lover/etc.

She's pretty well written imo, of a traumatized character.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The question is whether the dislike of the character was because it was poorly written or poorly acted.

In this case I feel like Charlie was a well-written character who had a good arc (despite a touch of Mary Sue-itis) but Anne Winters' delivery was absolutely flat.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

The Orville has literally some of the worst acting I've ever seen put onto film, and Seth's girlfriends were rarely bringing up the average. Seriously, it's like the half the cast was there specifically to make Travis Mayweather seem like an Emmy-winning tour-de-force.

The fact that it was so damn earnest and had a some good slush-pile scripts from Star Trek saved it overall, but nobody was watching The Orville for the acting, though Penney Jerald, Peter Macon, and Adrianne Palicki handled the material well.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, she was a bit rough at first, but I didn't have a problem with her, especially given her arc.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She should have taken medical leave if she was that fucked

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago

She should have, but plot. And also traumatized people irl have a habit of rejecting help

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Me too!

But I understand why the writers had a hard time justifying Kira killing Keiko in cold blood.