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[โ€“] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've got two.

  • The US has arrived at the stage where an entirely new constitution/model of government, probably down to the very borders of the states themselves in the 48, needs to be implemented, just to let off the pressure of just how large a scale the US operates on in every dimension compared to what the original 13 were looking at.

  • The two state solution has been rendered untenable by Israel's settler shit, the best way to protect the interests of Palestinians is to break down the border entirely and make them voting citizens with a say in the Knesset, and at this point I am convinced the only way that can be established is with an occupation force from outside both nations ready and willing to haul off anyone doing anything to threaten the coexistence and execute them. They won't coexist in peace, so let them coexist under the sword of Damocles. If I had my way honestly, Jerusalem would have a nuke installed under the temple mount, with a switch set to destroy the city entirely if they're going to insist on continuing to try and total victory wipe eachother out.

If they can't have the land together, they'll have the ashes together.

[โ€“] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I sometimes like to entertain sort of a radically modified 2 state solution.

Both sides get their own state, the catch is neither state is in Israel/Palestine.

We carve out 2 Israel-sized chunks of land that are nowhere near each other from the emptiest space we can find in large developed nations, maybe the American southwest, siberia, australian outback, Canadian wilderness, etc. The world throws money at the problem for them to set up any schools, government , infrastructure, etc. they need to run a country in that space, then we draw straws or flip a coin to determine which gets to be the Israeli state and which gets to be the Palestinian state.

Then all of the residents get 2 options. They can go set up shop in their new country, or they get a one-time free pass to pick any other country in the world and be granted instant citizenship.

No one gets to stay in Palestine/Israel. It gets overseen directly by the UN or something as a giant world heritage site, people are free to visit, play tourist, make pilgrimages, etc. but no one gets to live there full-time, anyone who works there to facilitate tourism, conduct research, maintain facilities and infrastructure, etc. must be kept on a strict schedule where they're cycling in and out of the area so that they don't spend more than half the year there without special permission. Anyone caught attempting to live there gets departed to their home country immediately.

The new countries' borders are strictly enforced, no trying to expand the borders, settlements, etc. and it's up to them to negotiate what the border situation with their surrounding country.

If they can't play nice, we're taking their toys away from them and sending them to stand in opposite corners of the room to think about what they did.

If any verifiable God/Messiah/prophet, etc. should happen to show up, we'll defer to their judgement on the matter.

There are, of course, a million different reasons why this can't/won't happen, and hopefully they're obvious enough that I won't have to explain why it's a crazy fantasy.