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[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 day ago (8 children)

We need to slowdown YouTube and get an alternative that is viable for people and creators. The problem in this case is creators and brands, almost no creators would continue doing videos if there's no money at the end

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 1 day ago

The problem with money being involved is it's an invitation to spam crap everywhere.

One of my relatives has recently taken up "AI travel videos" and "AI cute videos" as a "hobby". No doubt based on the first thing that came up when I searched for those things, a video titled "make $10,000 a month spamming up YouTube with your AI slop".

Oh, and it needs you to buy the AI slop generating tools that they happen to sell. How convenient!

I mean, this also happened with broadcast TV, where we suddenly went from like 4 channels filled with programs and things competing for space, to 200 channels, where the rush was on to fill the gaps between the adverts as cheaply as possible with reality show tat. And that's all YouTube is now.

[–] Teils13@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is the PeerTube network, which works like Lemmy.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is one the best YouTube alternative but needs to be adopt massively

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 day ago

Start using it and ask content creators to also put their content on there.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The other problem is storage and bandwidth.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The solution is decentralization of the web

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So now the problem is sharing your IP with every member of the P2P swarm.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Not really because sharing an IP is nothing that important

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago

Not if it used Veiled

[–] sentientity@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

It's subscription based, but Nebula is creator owned I believe. Sucks though that everything free gets acquired by some extractive company.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Odysee is actually doing amazing. The interface is great and the speed is even better than Youtube at the moment.

They are however swithing their core structure from one blockchain powered storage model to another one, so at the moment it's a bit guesswork and could possibly turn out very bad. (ArWeave bought them...)

Regarding the far right content on the platform; yes, there is a bit of it, but I have only once come across it, and I was actually browsing some categories relating to politics. So in normal usage, following content creators and checking what Odysee is featuring, you'll not come across them. But even if you do, Odysee's block/mute functionality works better than the one on YouTube.

[–] Doburoku@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nah a little alt right content is entirely too much.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Freedom of speech for me but not for thee

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

See that's the cute thing.They can have their free speech right there, but freedom also means the for most people obvious choice not to associate with nazis and other similiar troglodytes.

And as you said yourself, it already seems to be a popular hole for said miscreants, so why even bother with it.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 20 hours ago

As I said, you don't even notice them except if you look for them.

Odysee also has very good block/muting, much better than that of YouTube.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Sure, but that doesn't mean that one should willfully fraternize with idiots lol Troglodytes should be shunned, nothing wrong about that.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Something community owned and a non-profit would be good.

[–] gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago

They're already halfway there /s

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Right, but again the problem is creators

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

We probably need to have some kind of business that links up people looking for ads with in video monetization. Of course sponsor block Will negate that to some decent extent.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Teils13@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 day ago

VK Video is indeed probably close to it, being a quasi state company. Theoretically they can not maximize profit extraction in all spaces, and keep the videos without unlimited propaganda. But Rutube is a profit-seeking company that is just smaller scale youtube. Let's see how the 1st will evolve over time.