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Also, in b4 fascists start pretending like the Stalinist bootlicker Thalmann hadn't spent the past half-decade backstabbing and burning bridges with the SPD, which had previously been cooperative with the KPD after the establishment of the Weimar Republic.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So… people asking the person who is supposed to represent them to meet them in the middle are facists?

My favorite part was late last year when so many Very Concerned Leftists were crying "IF THE DEMS CAME OUT IN FAVOR OF A CEASEFIRE, THEN I COULD SUPPORT THEM AGAINST THE LITERAL FASCISTS, OH WOE IS ME, I CANNOT DO SO UNTIL THEY AT LEAST DO THAT BARE MINIMUM OF EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR A CEASEFIRE!"

And then when Biden began publicly supporting a ceasefire, they immediately changed their tack so they could continue supporting fascism in the US. Such is how it always goes with such creatures.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, going above congress to still send arms to Israel while allowing them to continually sink negotiations for a ceasefire is not doing much to actually support it other than in name. They want actual action, not political theatre dems are known for. Like at the DNC Kamala starting by saying she will always support Israel. Then saying “oh and uh Palestine shouldn’t be completely murdered” to give the bare minimum. But hey, at least she did the bare minimum? Enough to allow some to still hold their nose and vote, though some will still hold out for better than that.

Even still, Green and PSL are what, 0.3% of the vote? Not even a third of a percent. You act like they are more to blame than the 47% republucan vote? So busy trying to turn progressives into an enemy, cuz you know, that’s what it’s gotta be right? Politics always has to be your team wins and everyone else is evil, cuz how else could you win as the lesser evil. lol. Fucking god. Let people push for the DNC to be more progressive, a third of a percent is a lot better than the 1.18% who vote libertarian. But having the DNC make people WANT to vote for them and get some of those ~40% who don’t vote would be good. A lot more good than 0.3% who will vote for someone more progressive.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I mean, going above congress to still send arms to Israel while allowing them to continually sink negotiations for a ceasefire is not doing much to actually support it other than in name. They want actual action, not political theatre dems are known for.

Do you wear a weight lifting belt while moving those goalposts? You should, because it would reduce the chance of back injury.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 month ago

Saying something and actually doing something are two different things. No goalpost moved. People want actions to support the ceasefire, not words. Not pretend negotiations that we let Israel poison pill and sink continuously. We have leverage, we just refuse to use it. That is people’s problem with what is going on. Biden words have been completely hollow. If he followed through people would be stoked. It even looked like maybe he was serious almost but that was proved to be wrong, which is why people are rightfully upset.

There’s still hope maybe it happens eventually, but yeah idk man it’s wild you’re happy to watch millions get fucking genocided, entire cities fucking buried, because other guy would let it happen slightly faster.