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I unironically believe this; I have been to italy, and eaten authentic italian pizza.
Fuck off with barely any cheese and no toppings. it tastes fine as a kind of fancy bread, but give me the fuckload of cheese and meat every time
I couldn't disagree more. I've also been to Italy, specifically to Napoli, and just the dough alone is phenomenal, something between pancake and bread. Then the fresh tomatoes and mozzarella on top with the fresh basil leaves for the something extra - perfect balance, heaven in my mouth!
I've also been to the US (west coast, Portland) and Jebus, that was terrible. First they don't give you a pizza but a slice of pizza, then it's reheated because they make a lot of it and can't sell it fresh. The toppings is dry ham and tasteless cheese, a ton of cheese, but just flavorless cheese. I tried in a couple of places there with practically the same result. Thanks, but no thanks.
The Swedish pizza is probably what I would say is what you're talking about, tons of toppings and decent dough.
Kebab pizza with french fries:
Bro you went to Portland Oregon and got some shit new york style by the slice? You fucked up
You should try
And that's just the best of the best that I've personally been to. Plenty of smaller places serving up phenomenal pies as well dotted everywhere. You only get by the slice of you're starving right now and have less than 5 bucks.
Mid range but great
Places that are over hyped.
Swedish kebab pizza feels like it shouldn't exist, but it's honestly so good
Oh I forgot to add one thing about the Italian pizza. I've eaten pizza in Rome too, and it was practically as terrible as in Portland.
General rule of thumb: don’t go to tourist spots or where something has been invented. It’s worse than the knockoffs.
Real "Sachertorte" from "Hotel Sacher" in Vienna is mindlessly overpriced and way worse than any one you can get at any small local bakery.
Original "Carpaccio" from "Harry‘s Bar" in Venice is the same - extremely overpriced and just not good and not worth the money.
I’ve had amazing "Tunbrötsrulle" at some little restaurant in Stockholm, I’ve forgotten the name, but they also had burgers on the menu.
Well yeah you went to the wrong coast for pizza.
WTF, that doesn't sound even remotely correct. How much did you pay, $0.50? You got scammed dude. I'm from Texas which, afaik, is probably at the bottom of the list of "places you think of when someone says, 'pizza'" but I've had way better pizza than what you're describing. Hell, Pizza Hut is probably better than what you're describing lol. That sounds horrid.
Well there's your problem, the west coast has been doing strange things to their Pizza ever since that one cannuck thought using pineapples would excuse calling something a Hawaiian pizza without any spam
There was a place I used to go that made a "Greek Pizza," which was basically a gyro on pizza dough instead of pita and with melted feta on top.
Oh my god it was amazing.
It sounds like you went to Little Caesar’s.
I just came back to Europe after a couple weeks in the US. The US was beautiful (travelled in the Rockies). I was surprised by the fact that I unironically would not be able to live there just because of the food. Everything was so drowned in cheese / sugar / unspecified ultraprocessed something that I had legitimate digestion issues the first week.
I had no idea I could miss just plain real bread as much as I did by the time I got back.
Half the time it's not even normal sugar; it's high-fructose corn syrup...
EDIT: Well over half the time.
Getting just regular old bread for a normal price there is basically mission impossible.
American bread is cake.
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/01/919189045/for-subway-a-ruling-not-so-sweet-irish-court-says-its-bread-isnt-bread
I try to buy it a day old and then freeze it. It kind of sucks
Fortunately italian pizza isnt meant for fast food addicts
Go to Napoli and never have better pizza again because it just doesn't exist.
It's also the last pizza you'll ever have /j
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I've never been to Italy, but my cousin grew up there for part of their childhood. They said "Italians invented pizza, America made it good"
Yeah, no. They don't. Whoever told you that made that shit up or heard it from an american.
American pizza and Italian pizza are two different animals that share the same name. They both have good, mediocre and shitty examples. I have had all three in both countries.
As to which one I prefer? Ehhh depends on the day.
Other countries also have their unique take on Pizza that I have tried and enjoyed. I had some in Spain and Brazil that were amazing yet very different.
Americans ☕
bitch please.