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Those who paid any attention during his presidency know it doesn’t matter what he says about anything anyway. His “policies” blow with the wind, can turn on a dime, and are for sale to the highest bidder.
A fair-sized chunk of this fall's electorate was too young to vote in 2016, and doesn't have a real sense of how awful he is, or how much has deteriorated over the past few years.
I would surmise young people voting for Trump are primarily from parents who are voting for Trump likely with very little crossover.
He may dupe a few rubes, but doubtful they are educated voters following the issues if they pull the lever for him imo.
Your first paragraph supports your interlocutor’s point and your second paragraph does little to argue against it.
Solid F
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You’re right, but not for the reasons you think. His policies do matter and do have a tremendous effect, but his most dangerous policies never came to pass only because of the people he surrounded himself with during his last administration. They managed to stop the worst things from happening then. That won’t be true this time around, and only those who are already voting against him know that. The idiots who would vote for him this time didn’t care about the last time and don’t know any better this time either. All they care about is voting for the red team no matter what, and they don’t care about the cost.