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I refuse to believe you all would really let your players bully you into running only d&d (ttrpg.network)

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[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was once explaining a rules lite system I wanted to try to someone, and he kept complaining about how difficult it would be for him to learn a new system. I had to point out that I had already fully explained the rules while we were talking, and we weren't even talking long.

I think some people just think every system is as complex as D&D.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 points 3 months ago

This is very often a thing people believe! Especially if the other system they're looking at is like Pathfinder (similarly complex) or some close D&D relatives that have a different set of arbitrary numbers. Like, in this game a 15 strength is +3! We have 50 feats with similar names but different behaviors! They might not even realize that not every game has six stats, or long lists of "feats", or anything even like "feats". And a lot of games (most of them?) don't have weird tables and mappings.

Like if you're playing Fate Core, and you want to burgle, you just your burgle score. One number.

But I think a lot of the time when people present that kind of resistance, it's coming from an emotional place. Telling them facts isn't going to do much. They might feel embarrassed about not being good at the new game. They might feel bad about spending $80 on the D&D books and unusual dice when the new game has a free book and just uses d6. That kind of stuff. Unfortunately, most people aren't really introspective enough to surface those feelings quickly and accurately. (I include myself in "most people" there, sadly.)

I had a guy in an old group that once with full sincerity said "The best thing about D&D is we can just try out different house rules, and if we don't like them we can change something out." Like, my guy, that's not a unique property of D&D. If anything, D&D is harder to homebrew because it has oddly specific rules and assumptions.