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[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Federal service is very broad though. Just consider ask the different Federal Agencies and the roles they fill.

For example, when I was in college I had a 6 month internship with the National Park Service doing trail maintenance for a national park. It serves me no purpose as a resume item but I look back on that time extremely fondly even though it was the hardest physical labor I've ever done. It was incredibly physical work with really 10+ miles of hiking every work day. The NPS across the US has an huge budgetary backlog of trail maintenance going back decades.

That all is just an example but I'm sure the NPS could make great use of thousands of young workers to improve our parks. Similarly, I'm sure across the board the Federal Agencies would have a vast multitude of roles for this Federal service, including working for the DoD but in non military roles. Most of the agencies would have vast amounts of work that isn't covered by their budgets so it just doesn't get done.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Federal service is very broad though. Just consider ask the different Federal Agencies and the roles they fill.

Exactly this. There are lots and lots and lots of jobs throughout the federal government (and states if we include them) that would be great to have people get exposed to. It would also give people a very real sense that government is not some airy-fairy thing that is just there to be bureaucratic and "steal" your taxes...

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And while I think a return to having a strong emphasis on civil engineering and infrastructure as public service would be a great idea… without an education that is basically just hard physical labor. So now we have even more kids starting with debilitating injuries before they even begin their “real” career.

That repeated:

If you think having a bunch of kids who are pissed they aren't hanging out with their friends or going to American Pie University or whatever and unleashing them on our parks is a good idea... you've never worked with teenagers.

If someone wants to serve (as in actually help people, not wear camo and expect a handshake from every person they ever see) then that should be supported. But you aren't getting any meaningful skilled work out of people in a year of mandatory service. All you are doing is exploiting cheap labor while providing even more ways for the rich to get richer.

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Federal service at this level does not make rich people richer. Working for their corporations does and that's exactly what most people do when they finish school. Corporations even tend to layoff experienced workers and hire new graduates because they are cheaper. Federal service looks this benefits everyone that takes advantage of federal services the agencies provide.

Like I was trying to point out in my example, there is a vast amount of work that federal agencies need done that is not skilled labor. But there is value in exposing young people to a small section of how the federal government operates.