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Trump isn’t an icon of positive masculinity. He also did very little for young men during his four years as president

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[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You’re not paying enough attention if you think Trump winning means “too bad the rest of the world will feel the consequences.” Germany just elected their first far right government since WWII, France had a massive right wing that is now in the EU council, Austria… well they keep making shitty right wing choices, down into South America Argentina shifted right, and other countries continue to do so as well. We’re not special or alone in this.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh I'll definitely give you that! My own little corner of the world has been ruled by fairly hard-right nutjobs for over a decade, and while not quite as dramatic as elsewhere, almost all metrics for a positive society have gone down, except employment. We too suffer from insurmountable housing costs and low wages, which is not a coincidence at all.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

almost all metrics for a positive society have gone down, except employment.

In other words, all the metrics have gone down.

(Employment is only a positive metric when the alternative is poverty, not self-actualization. The notion that being employed is intrinsically good is some elitist/authoritarian bullshit rooted more in keeping the working class too scared and busy to demand better for themselves than anything else.)

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Couldn't agree more. Employment today is little more than glorified slavery.

[–] piefedderatedd@piefed.social 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You’re not paying enough attention if you think Trump winning means “too bad the rest of the world will feel the consequences.” Germany just elected their first far right government since WWII,

There were elections in two states in the east of Germany last weekend. In one of them the far right party AfD gained most votes compared to others. In the other state they finished second largest. There is nothing decisive however. Other parties have been called to set up a firewall "Brandmauer" to prevent the AfD to govern.

France had a massive right wing that is now in the EU council, Austria… well they keep making shitty right wing choices, down into South America Argentina shifted right, and other countries continue to do so as well. We’re not special or alone in this.

Exactly. In the last few decades Austria , Turkey and Hungary were among the first to shift to far right party based governments in Europe. An interesting read is this book by Turkish journalist Ece Temelkuran (Who fled the country) which is about Turkey going downhill from democracy to dictatorship. This book also reflects on Trump winning in 2016. At some point also Poland had a far-right government but the damage from that is slowly being repaired by a new government. By now among others Slovakia, Italy and the Netherlands have far-right government coalitions. Outside Europe there was Bolsonaro in Brazil. Still, Trump winning (legally or not) would be bad for the rest of the world, especially for Ukraine.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Germany just elected their first far right government since WWII

In one German state, Thuringia. That's the German equivalent of Mississippi. It's bad, but not bad on the national level yet. In France, the FN (the extreme-right party) lost in the run-off, though their leader has been pretending to be less of a jackbooted thug than her father, the previous FN leader.

You're correct that the return of fascism is a global problem. If something were to happen to Putin, many of those rightwing parties would collapse back into the squabbling gangs of hooligans and racist goons they were before they started getting Russian advice, funding and help from troll farms. That's why Russian propaganda outlets like RT and Sputnik have been so anti-Harris. They know Trump will sell out Ukraine and gut NATO, and that's the only way Putin can keep his job and his head.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Germany just elected their first far right government since WWII,

This is very misleading

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

It would've been less misleading for you too to specify that it was state elections