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Is it me or is source forge just the mark of dead things.
I always avoid that place. It feels like where you go to get broken stuff.
They're gonna take me out back and shoot me for saying it but Launchpad too. Like I'm glad it works for you but it feels like when Debian had a website in 2015 that looked like 1997. How are we going to attract new talent when the rift between the average developers and the old guard widens over time. All the git VCS modernization supercharged development. Like bugzilla was "fine", but " fine" was the problem in a world of better when you couldn't even upload a > 250kb jpeg and other legacy hold us back stuff.
If a project is hosted on sourceforge then its a pretty good sign that the developer hasn't progressed their craft since about 2005, which is a pretty big red flag for anything
Not a linux project, but OpenCamera for android is probably the only exception I know of. It's still getting updated and does best what it's supposed to do.
True, but the UI reflects that they still use source forge lol. Still the best open source camera.
Good thing is that sourceforge have anonymous commenting and tickets. Once I had an issue with open camera I didn't need any account to create a ticket or comment
There are other exceptions.
Exactly, they could be hosting their releases on whichever site they use for remote git, but they don’t know how to use git
If your a chess fan, Scid vs PC is regularly updated and it's hosted on sourceforge. However I don't go there unless it's for that or other related projects.
I think most projects left Sourceforge after they started putting adware into they're downloads.
Over the beginning few years into software engineering and FOSS world, I legit thought Sourceforge is a sketchy software download website
As a Debian user... Its the same in 2024.
Amen. I though I somehow missed a new site design.. I kinda like it the way it is now..
Oh I'm not complaining. Its quick and simple to navigate. I don't need flash, I need function.
I wouldn't mind updates with that aspect kept in mind, but I'm not going to complain about it either. I think more websites could use debian.org as an example.
I don't care what the website looks like as long as the product still works as amazingly as it does now.
Agree - after they started bundling adware in downloads (2013ish?), all the decent projects seemed to move to github en masse.
Those projects that stayed were mostly already stagnant, or the maintainers didn't use git and didn't want to learn, or had some other reason that allowed them to accept advertising on their work.
It was bought out and cleaned up a few years ago. It's legit again now, though I don't think it'll ever really recover from that fiasco.
I agree about Sourceforge but there isn’t really anything better than Bugzilla still, at least not that I’ve seen anyone use.
They have a GitHub. The SourceForge links to their GitHub pages.
You write "new kids value appearance over function and lack the mentors to show them why that's bad" funny. And, you should use the other punctuation for a question.
I agree, alot of the young guard prefers bling over whatever actually works great. Having said that, giving older software a bit more bling is a good idea because said young guard is the future and you always want to lure people with the bling and keep them with the great functionality. Right now they see bling and if it's shit, oh well, that's just how it works
And that's especially true for Linux and other big projects.
I'm not a kernel or C developer by any stretch, but a few years ago fixed a small bug that caused my knockoff PS2 controllers to act super weird. Nothing serious, something like one constant and maybe 5 lines of code. Would have gladly pushed that upstream, but fuck me sideways is that a complicated process. Patches via email??? And the argument is always "but it works for us", yeah burning witches and slavery also work for some people, doesn't mean it's something to continue doing.
If there isn't a serious revamp, Linux will die a slow death or become just a corporate graveyard product like Cobol.