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[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

looking at the graph it does leave impression that Lib losses went straight to NDP gains

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

Good, they need to get fucked and do better

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

... or, as we call it, a split vote.

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

minority government with NDP+Lib holding majority is OK. Cons can grab majority but will be gridlocked on every move, meaning we'll retain status quo for a bit, until Libs and NDP will decide to call election

[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Cons can grab majority but will be gridlocked on every move

Genuine question, why the assumption of gridlock if the conservatives form government with a majority?

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

look at the numbers. NDP +Libs outnumber them in Parliament so anything they try to pass... including budget is in NDP+Libs hands... if budget does not pass... it's auto-trigger for election if memory serves me right.

[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

NDP +Libs outnumber them now, yes. I assumed by "Cons can grab majority" you meant a majority of seats following an election, no?

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My understanding is that party with the most votes gets to form government, is it not so?

[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Right, the party with the most seats won would get first shot at forming government.

If your assumption is that the Conservatives would win the next election with a majority, then they would be able to form government without needing to rely on any other party (like the Libs rely on the NDP now).

Since political parties in parliamentary democracies typically vote uniformly, a majority party is generally able to pass legislation regardless of the position of opposition parties, which is why I questioned the presumption of gridlock.