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Self-driving Waymo cars keep SF residents awake all night by honking at each other (arstechnica.com)
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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That seems... Fine, on a skim. Plausible.

But like... are we sure we come out ahead spending decades on machine vision and self driving versus just having more human taxi drivers, and spending the money on the end goals we actually want?

I guess that's a shit job, driving taxis at weird times and places, and doesn't scale super well. But machine vision and self driving seems to be a decades long project.

Related: I'm not really comfortable with critical infrastructure (eg: transit) being privately owned and operated. So that might be a problem.

Though the political will being absent for anything good remains a problem, too.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

But like... are we sure we come out ahead spending decades on machine vision and self driving versus just having more human taxi drivers, and spending the money on the end goals we actually want?

Human driving cost is forever. A self driving programme cost is for today only.

The money has been spent. Waymo is operating without a driver in Phoenix, LA and San Francisco.

Ultimately it's private money. No public money is being spent on it. The government can (and should) invest in public transport also. But how alphabet spends their money isn't up to the government.

Anything can be nationalised.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But didn’t it come out recently that Waymo has human “drivers” behind a remote control and that it is nearly a 1:1 relationship of driver to car because the self driving tech just hasn’t made it far enough?

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I haven't heard anything about that. Got a link? I don't even see how that would work in real time. Waymo is a very safe driver and can Indians even drive in the US on their licence because it's so crap?

This story came out recently about Amazon shopping:

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-just-walk-out-actually-1-000-people-in-india-2024-4?amp

You thinking of that?

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

No but that was a similar story that came out at the same time. I think I may be thinking about the Cruise vehicles.