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It seems that crypto bros have begun to raid lemmy recently, and for raid i mean that yhey just have been coming in big quantities, since the other day i was talking bad about crypto and got downvoted a lot, which is weird since i thought most people here didnt like it since the fiasco of past 3 years on crypto and blockchain, and i got a lot of comments deffending it too.
Many are coming from reddit (another communist hellhole). State worshipers hate crypto because it is a tool for freedom. It peacefully rips the power over money from state control and by extension banker control, since the bankers fully own the bloated communist state that we have in all developed nations today.
Dude bankers are not comunist, quite the contrary actually, and reddit are mostly lefty kids, the tankies where in lemmy all along, and you say crypto bros are comming from reddit but also say that they hate crypto too? Wtf. Im confused, you scare me, go away.
You are confused, most likely due to your surface level understanding on most topics. Crypto bros are morons who know nothing about crypto. They have some coins on an exchange and are hoping to cash out when it pumps again and go on a vacation.
You came in here, now go away.
Whait. I thought you liked crypto.
Again, the topic is not as simple as "I like crypto".
Monero is a decentralize and private by default fair and honest cryto currency that acts exactly like cash in digital format. No one knows if you have it, how much you have, who sent it to you or where you sent it. It is basically the ultimate money. Most "crypto" is useless and scams.
Just like physical cash except it cannot be manipulated by communists and bankers.
By all means, go get scammed with crypto. Meanwhile the rest of us are living in the real world where not a single developed western nation is a communist state.
They all have income tax and a central bank, two primary pillars of communism.
You should stay away from crypto, with your level of intelligence you would lose it all in a week.
I don't think you know what communism is, but you're not going to listen to anyone that explains it are you?
When your brain has been destroyed by libertarianism, anything done to help anyone else seems like communism.
As I said, you have a surface level understanding of communism. You know some general tropes and feel good half-baked intellectual points you absorbed while falling asleep in your communist infiltrated university general studies classes.
I have done deep research on the topic and at it's core communism is a demonic system which infiltrates, corrupts, takes control, then enacts total dehumanization and murder.
This is absolutely hilarious, no matter what I say you will still reply.
Not only do you think central banks are not just a part of but one of the defining features of a classless, stateless, moneyless society, they're the key indicator that a state is communist! Add to that that you confuse different people replying to you with each other (or assume everyone is the same person) and you get this wonderfully entertaining mix.
Tell me, what else have you done deep research on? Next you're going to tell everyone that the earth is flat or something aren't you.
You are an ignorant fool or just 14 years old. A central bank and income taxes are literally in the communist manifesto you dupe. How much more in your face does it have to get.
Let me guess, you thought we just went through a pandemic? At this point I am just going to recommend two more booster shots back to back for you.
Fantastic, I could barely have imagined a more unhinged reply. Frankly I'm surprised you haven't started talking about Chinese space lazers.
LOL, presenting direct evidence from a primary source on the communist ideology is unhinged. OK clown.
This is typical moron communist strategy. Poison the conversation with nonsensical stupidity when they realize they are being intellectually dominated. Which happens often because they are idiots.
I'm specifically referring to your pandemic talk.
A transitional communist state will use the power of a central bank to abolish private capital (other banks) and bring about a communist society eventually. Central state controlled banks are just a tool, like a hammer or a car.
Your definition of communism is like Plato's definition of man, a plucked chicken would also qualify.
Yes, just put on these chains while I take you across the sea to freedom. You are a tool.
Amazing, enlightened, groundbreaking response here. I suppose we should not wear clothes because communists wear clothes too?
Tell me, are you against restrictions on child labour or is that too much for you because it is also mentioned in the communist manifesto?
Maybe helping old ladies cross the street is also in the communist manifesto? Oh its not
Are you against helping old ladies cross the street?
No you see I'm against helping old ladies cross the street because I think we should abolish streets entirely!
You never are going to read the comments or care what I'm saying, you aren't trying to learn or understand, so let's have a bit of fun shall we?
Was the pandemic also a communist plot to do something nefarious as well?
All I can say to you at this point is please take more boosters.
Yes boss! I queue up every day at a different pharmacy to get a new booster. I'm on number 478 at this point because a few days I managed two or more!
The only side effect is that I can now do a rectal prolapse at will and frankly looking at it, it reminds me of you 😘
Great, boosters are the only way to go for you. Very safe and so effective.
As long as I'm paying in cash for the boosters, right? 😉
Would be super neat if your communist overlords took some pity and gave you a voucher.
Gonna ask them to specifically pay for it with your taxes 💉 ☺
Good luck, not sure how many injections you can get for zero.
This whole conversation now makes so much more sense!
And how do you think the road you use are paid? How do you think the military that protect you from communists states are paid?
By printing free money?
They are able to fund massive war crimes such as invasions and mass murder around the world by debasing the currency, drug trafficking and other criminal operations on top of theft known as taxes.
The military are the ones enforcing communist policies of the bankers on the rest of the world. The only countries that get invaded are ones without a central bank controlled by them.
Roads are paid for by fuel tax and tolls.
You'd probably suprised that tools and taxes are nowhere enough to pay for the enormous road infrastructure of the US. In avarage it pays for around half of it. The rest is funded by your taxes.
One of many sources: https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/states-road-funding-2019/
As for the accusations of war crimes, mass murder, I unfortunately can only agree as those are well documented. If my memory is right, there is some drug dealing and other criminal scandals here and there, but nowhere enough to fund the behemoth that the US military is.
But I fail to see how debasing the currency would fund anything without creating a gigantic inflation. And by that I mean multiple times more that the current one which is mainly caused by the growing cost of energy. So no, i doubt it is how it get funded.
As for the "without central bank controlled by them", of course they aren't. The central bank is either controlled by the country themselves, or by a community of countries (example: EU central bank). So of course a country invaded by the US wouldn't have a central bank controlled by the US. And so do all the country NOT invaded by the US. This argument make no sense.
The military answer to whomever is the head of state, not to banks. Problem is, of course, if said official is corrupted by the banks, if which case ot is the role of the press to investigate and expose said corruption. With credible evidences of course. So unless you can prove what you are saying with credible evidence, better say it as being an opinion rather than a fact.
Oh, and communism is, by definition, against the power of banks. So saying a bank is pushing a communist agenda is kinda... ironic. But that's my opinion.
When new money is created the central banks get it first thus it's value is still mainly unchanged. They loan it to the government and they spend it to fund tremendous crimes.
By the time the money gets to the average person the inflation is realized by the economy and the purchasing powers has decreased.
Exactly, because the US is controlled by banks, so the US military does the bidding of the bankers. They invade because they do not control the region yet, not to "spread freedom".
Communism is not "against the banks", central banking is literally in the communist manifesto, communism is against banks they do not control.
The US has a central bank because it was infiltrated by communists.
That now how it work, like at all. The central bank do not control the value of the money they print, the exchanges does. If they print too much, the money will devaluate, which means inflation. Which means the US government will have to pay more for what they wanted to buy, aka printing more money, which further devaluate the money, and so on. Same goes with any currency, be it physical or crypto.
Still waiting for the US to "spread their freedom" to countries that said them to go f*ck themselves, like France during the Irak invasion. And by that not by renaming French fries to Freedom fries like the some GOP politician pushed forward.
They don't need "communist bankers" for that. A fascist state would have done the same. The US need energy, which means oil. That as simple as that.
So infiltrated by communism they enacled some of the worst anti-communism laws in the world? All that while being controlled by a communist central bank created (1913) before the Russian communist revolution (1917)? Yeah... right....
Globally, there is no fascist bankers, nor communist ones. It is far simpler that that.
The true villain is simply our collective greed, who want to live as comfortably as possible no matter the impact on who we see as the "others". The politics know that, manipulate that to their own ends, creating scapegoat left and right (fascist on the left, commies on the right), to make us fight against each other.
And you are currently playing right into their hand by blaming some communist others for our collective shortcommings at finding a collective solution at a collective problem.
By printing more money they devalue the money in existence. They have first access to new money so they benefit from it and buy up assets, while the poor ignorant fool does not know how to protect himself from inflation tax.
France is controlled by the same bankers as the US, freedom-fries was a show put on for the dumb masses to consume some drama.
Where is this anti-communist act today, it has been shredded because communists run the whole place now. Even at the time the FBI stood up for the communists because they were already infiltrated.
"There was much controversy surrounding the Act. The Federal Bureau of Investigation and its Director, J. Edgar Hoover, opposed the bill on the count that it would have forced the Communist movement underground"
There is no collective greed, greed is individual. It is true that the communists use political parasites to play on some people's greed to get something for nothing pushing for more communism.
Sure, "the bad guys do it but there is no way I, an intelligent person, may be fooled buy the same artifice", am I right?
We can debate all day, but I'm still waiting for any evidence of what you pretend. Or should I? Is it a gut feeling? Maybe a hearsay from whatever political circle you are from? I'm curious.
There isn't one piece of "evidence" that concludes how the whole scam system functions. It is a conclusion based on years of evidences I have seen. Life is too complex to boil down to a single factoid, that would be completely irrational to base everything on. Even if such a single piece existed you would just dismiss it anyway because it would contradict your belief structure.
Our beliefs and ideas are formed through experience and exposure over long periods. The important part is does your conception of the world make you successful, independent, and content, or fearful, dependent, and subservient.
As you said, life is complex, and my own experience is not enough to say if X or Y is corrupt or not (I would rather say that most are somewhat in the middle), but so are you. I'd rather trust independent investigation press, which job is precisely to investigate and expose corruption where it exist. Unfortunately in the US, there is very little law to prevent press owned by political parties and their affiliate to push a political agenda.
You'd be probably surprised by how your contradictors can be open to dialog. I'm just curious about your evidence and experiences. I offered you some of mine, from what I consider as being reputable and independent sources (note that I did not go directly to a government website, like you are, I am cautious about what any government would say as there is a clear risk of conflict of interest). But if your evidences are so brittle that they wouldn't stand debate, I'm sorry to tell you, but anyone would be a fool to believe them.
Moreover, I do know a lot more about the bank side than you may think. As an IT worker I worked nearly half my career for banks, I've seen their process (as I translated them to code), met all kind of people, from high level bankers to low level employee. Like everyone, they have biased view of the world around them, forged from their respective life, and they take teir decision according to that. But something I can be sure of, none of them have a once of communist ideology in them. If it isn't a regulation imposed by the legislator (environmental, fraud prevention, etc.) everything has one and only one objective: make as much money as possible while limiting risks to a reasonable minimum. Which is kinda the definition of capitalism, to my knowledge.
The people you came in contact with are just order followers. There is zero need for any "regulations" as fraud and theft are already illegal and when there is a victim resulting from such activity they can easily be prosecuted.
"Regulations" are in place to prevent competition to the established communist banking mafia. You were dealing with low level people who have no clue about the overarching agenda..
This documentary breaks down the communist subversion of the west, how it was all predicted decades ago and is now unfolding
Communist Subversion | A Plan For Total World-Wide Control
https://odysee.com/@theiconicpodcast:5/communist-subversion-a-plan-for-total:8
Just as you had no idea covid was a fake pandemic driven by hysteria, fake statistical models, and fraud based "tests", you also have no clue about this takeover of society by psychopathic control freaks. While you were slaving away at your "job" and coming home to watch mind numbing nonsense such as netflix I was conducting extensive research for over a decade. I knew the covid "pandemic" was a sham by the end of the first day it was announced.
This knowledge allowed me to prepare myself for what was to come and save a whole bunch of people from the poison injections which are now destroying the lives of millions by cause permanent heart damage and a host of other rapidly advancing illnesses.
My brother, a nurse, worked during that "fake pandemic" you are talking about. He saw truckloads of people of all age die. And this was way before vaccine were available. He caught it on his job, fought it and survived, but some of his colleagues did not have this chance. So before spewing nonsense on topic you have probably no expertise, try asking those "low level people" who are the one who see what really happened. As you said, they are not part of the "conspiracy", so they should not be biased a way or another.
As for Odysee.com, I knew it back in the day a LBRY.tv, it is known to be full of debunked videos. Unfortunately I could not take a look at the video as it either corrupted or the format is unsupported by my browser (Firefox latest version, first time I see that). Checking at the video description, other that an ex-KGB agent and a far-right essayist, there is no source. This cannot be held as a proof of anything else that that there is at least 4 people (including you) believing in something.
If you have done your own research, and followed a scientific method, you should know that the burden of proof is on the shoulder of the one that pretend something. And the more unbelievable the something is, the more solid and robust has to be the proof linked to it. And I'm still waiting for said proof. Opinion are not proofs.
Here we go, my brother's, cousin's, stepson, knew 1000 people that died from the sniffles. You are lying.
Now your going to discredit whole video platforms, yes everything on odysee has been debunked, the whole platforms is debunked. You are a complete moron.
Using science we know there is no covid because no virus was ever isolated and purified, you are a mind controlled dupe, you are exactly what that KGB agent is talking about. Totally mind controlled zombie who cannot process any information that goes against their indoctrinated narrative.
Everything is fine and the state and billionaires are working tirelessly to improve your life and make you as free, wealthy, and healthy with injections as possible, now go back to sleep.
You realize that these peeps kinda dislike right libertarians already and being a dick doesn't help, right?
I do not subscribe to right left and other BS labels. Either your a good honest person or a coward willing to do anything criminals with a badge or on TV tell you to do.