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[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 83 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

I was wondering how she said it in French cause we don’t really have a translation for fuck (that would be "j’emmerde" or "j'encule" in that specific case).

"Fuck aux réacs, fuck à cette extrême droite, fuck à tous ceux qui voudraient nous enfermer dans la guerre de tous contre tous"

Yeah ok, it’s easier that way, well done Madame La Maire de Paris 👌

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I realize l'Académie Française frowns at the introduction of English words into the French language, but it feels like they should make an exception in this case.

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Fuck l'Académie Française as well.

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fuck everything

(caption: burn it all down to start afresh)

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 2 points 3 months ago

We should have elected this guy.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I assume you wrote that on le computer.

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 5 points 3 months ago

Exactement. With the clavier.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately the Académie Française is mostly full of crusty old men who think they can dictate how the french language evolves, so we rarely care about what they have to say

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The alternative is English, where influencers and popular-girl types push something into popularity, and that drives the (d)evolution of the language. Quite actually the worst of us, the most shallow and short-sighted of us, people who peaked in high-school, people who have no idea how this or any other language works, decide how we speak.

Now we have words which are synonymous with their own antonyms, pluralization for a derived word different from its own root, no collective retained clue about mass nouns, and "because Becky said it" kind of rules fighting with the "massive population of ESL and their bad adjective order is the most popular, ergo the standard" mess.

And you complain about old scholars?

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 4 points 3 months ago

To be honest, it is the same here. The old scholars are mostly for show (and weird ass polemics).

[–] Floey@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Prescriptivists try not to be weird challenge.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Prescriptivism is exactly the opposite of blindly following vapid influencers and their eternal quest for 'likes'. There is something in the middle between prescriptivism and Idiocracy, and that middle ground was the fucking point of what I said.

[–] Floey@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I don't need the acrimonious screeds of a racist incel to tell me how language should function. I communicate daily, in English, both on and offline, and have yet to witness this breakdown of communication you're decrying.

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 5 points 3 months ago

They should insist that it gets written in the Constitution.

Le peuple français proclame solennellement son attachement aux Droits de l'homme et aux principes de la souveraineté nationale tels qu'ils ont été définis par la Déclaration de 1789 [...]

En vertu de ces principes et de celui de la libre détermination des peuples, la République proclame Fuck aux réacs, fuck à cette extrême droite, fuck à tous ceux qui voudraient nous enfermer dans la guerre de tous contre tous.

[–] nadram@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

“Fuck aux réacs, fuck à cette extrême droite, fuck à tous ceux qui voudraient nous enfermer dans la guerre de tous contre tous”

I want to etch this above my home's front door

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

don’t really have a translation for fuck

Certified not Quebecois

Fuck is like their word for eh

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I for one embrace the use of fuck in french as new word.

Je fucke

Tu fuckes

Il/Elle fucke

Nous fuckons

Vous fuckez

Ils/Elles fuckont

Or you can optionally drop the standard conjugation and just say fuck, idk. Also, "je the vais fucker" for "imma fuck you up"

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Ils/elles fuckent

Je vais te fucker

[–] chokokooki@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe something like “qu’ils aillent se faire foutre” lol

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes it could be "Qu'ils aillent se faire foutre" as well.

So many ways of saying fuck according to different situations, it is better that she said "fuck" as a french version would have been too vulgar and would have provoked some political scandal.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I'm partial to "j'encule," which also would work in that context.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't you use something with putain instead, like « putain de réacs » ?

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 4 points 3 months ago

Yes you can, but it won't be the same meaning.

"Putain d’extrême droite" would be "fucking far right" and not "fuck the far right".

That's not much but one is being annoyed at something, the other is actively insulting something.