Ask Lemmy

Jesus Christ give me strength.

Ask him for perspective at the same time. You're still missing lots of of it.

This is going to go nowhere. Look do you accept certain individuals in the world are mistreated?

As I have said multiple times already, yes.

That we should ideally address every issue on an individual basis and try to fix the issue that is affected that person?

Not in isolation, no.

Now if it is a man should we ignore them?

Keep your strawman. I've never said that.

What you are saying is someone has it worse so I don’t want to hear it. You don’t get to complain, you don’t get help, you don’t get attention, you’re going to get ignored just because you are a man.

More strawmen from you. I don't know who you're arguing with but its not me. I haven't said any of those things.

Some people have it worse than others yes. Some men have been on the receiving end of sexism more than some women. But if you are going to say women have more issues than men so men don’t get anything then that’s a horrible, sexist thing to say.

Cool, because I've never said that. That's more strawmen.

Well who has it worst? Some kid starving in Sudan. Oh I don’t want to hear about how you had to get coffee, there are kids starving in Sudan we can only address one issue at a time and you come from a developed country with excess food. No. Be quiet until we fix the Sudan issue I don’t want to hear it.

I've mentioned nothing but the USA. I've said this already. Your introduction of countries outside the USA is yet another strawman.

Your kidney analogy is a terrible one. A better one would be that when deciding if Jim or John should get a kidney they looked back through the records and found in 1965 some guy called Jim got a kidney and some guy called John died. So now it’s Johns turn to get a kidney.

I'm not talking about looking back in history for that analogy. I specifically mentioned both men were born at the same time (same age). John could have had kidney troubles because he lived near a coal plant for most of his life because thats the only real estate bank would let his parents buy (aka Redlining). So history affects what John is today, but you're wanting to handwave away that Jim started live on 2nd base.

That’s how sexism works, you group people and mistreat individuals rather than treating people as individuals.

That's part of how sexism works, but you're missing the really key other parts.

You seem to be trying to make out that I’m saying only men have issues and no one else does.

Again, thats your strawman. I have multiple times recognized that men have issues.

I’m not saying that I’m saying men ALSO have issues as well as other people, sometimes they are the same, sometimes they are different and they are humans too and they deserve attention, love and affection just like anyone else. But there are people like you in the world that don’t want to accept men have issues because you only want non-male issues addressing.

Again with your strawman. I have said multiple times that men have issues, and that those issues should be addressed. However, they don't get first dibs.

The most sexism I have seen in the workforce has been on hiring policies. That before the job has even been posted people are looking for women. You might have some 21 year old guy straight out of university, he could have been in the feminists society for all we know, he and the 10 other guys won’t even have a chance at the job because 1 woman has applied and they job is reserved for her based on sex alone. That’s sexism and all sexism is bad. Young men are really struggling now in a way people don’t want to address. Especially working class uneducated men. But all, all, the attention is on women.

Oh god, you're full redpill aren't you. Men have had it easy for hundreds of years compared to women. Only now that men are facing a small part of the difficulties that women are still facing, you're calling it an injustice.

I highly HIGHLY recommend you do some introspection. Learn some empathy for people that aren't like you. You're giving men a bad name. As a man myself, that negatively affects me too. Most of your arguments are with me. You've got so much strawman logic in your latest, I see no point in continuing. I won't be replying anymore. I hope you have a nice day.