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[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I seriously encourage everyone to read this book, even if you read it back in school and found it boring. It's incredibly topical to this day.

I also just read In Dubious Battle for the first time and recommend it. A great illustration on why it's so hard to get together and organize when it seems like it should be easy.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I seriously encourage everyone to read this book, even if you read it back in school and found it boring. It’s incredibly topical to this day.

I haven't. But I may at some point.

My English teacher would look at me with that demonizing look because I knew how economics work and wanted some explanation of various leftist views with logic in it, not that emotion of hate and envy and indignation and "you stupid capitalism bad meat good stick bad strawberry good mushroom strange", it got especially absurd when I got accused of not watching TV as if that made me dumber. Without such explanations being given, I naturally felt closer towards anarcho-capitalism, because I love freedom and the logic of economics and morals known to me supported it. And they also very clearly didn't love freedom (it takes away the feeling of authority of a certain kind of cowardly people), so I would be kinda hated.

Bad memories, in short.

I wrote a long clumsy text, tldr - one should be very careful with regulations, since in some sense they are what led us here. Strong anti-monopoly regulations - yes, splitting big companies and even franchises - yes, corporate death penalty - yes, reforming (or abolishing) patent and trademark and IP laws - yes, labor regulations - yes, some quality control (not selling "dairy products" completely from palm oil or something) - yes. But any regulatory apparatus is a target for bribes and regulations working in the opposite direction.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I knew how economics work

you mean you knew that it is a system of myth making by the preistly class, with no predictive power?

I naturally felt closer towards anarcho-capitalism, because I love freedom and the logic of economics

oh. you're just a religious fanatic.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

you mean you knew that it is a system of myth making by the preistly class, with no predictive power?

Basic laws of supply and demand and subjective equivalence and so on work and have predictive power.

oh. you’re just a religious fantastic.

Where I live socialists are like US Republicans in, well, US. You may disagree or agree or play some emotion like you just did, thinking that makes for an argument, this doesn't change the fact that you will go fuck yourself.

[–] timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You present yourself as above emotional displays, then tell a stranger to go fuck themselves over some mildly worded casual internet debate, presumptivly displaying your anger at the inconsequential judgement of your words.

Moreover, you reference "basic laws of supply and demand", as if reciting words without adding any substance to your argument proves your point and displays your intellect/knowledge. Well, it certainly does one of those things. Probably not in the way you think it does.

The point I'm making is; you are clearly lacking in self-awareness, which is understandable given that you seem to be fresh out of high school (you reference English class, which is something typically only done by kids/young adults). You may want to work on your critical thinking skills and your ability to formulate logically structured arguments if you want to engage in good faith debate while presenting yourself as some sort of expert. Just a suggestion. Take it or leave it.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

You present yourself as above emotional displays,

No, I present myself as above using them instead of arguments, which is not the same. One more such cheat move and I block you to avoid more emotional displays from my own side.

You may want to work on your critical thinking skills and your ability to formulate logically structured arguments if you want to engage in good faith debate while presenting yourself as some sort of expert.

I may want to say that you are the one not arguing in good faith, first of all because you've cheated again. Fool blocked.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Basic laws of supply and demand and subjective equivalence and so on work and have predictive power.

no, they don't. those are tautologies.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hard to take seriously somebody nicknamed "commie" on this.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

oh, well maybe you could try to show me an economic story errr.... "theory" that is not just a tautology.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'll rather demonstrate supply and demand to you: there's supply of my attention. I give my attention for satisfaction of communicating to someone or reading something interesting, maybe learning something interesting. Your first comment gave me that satisfaction in the form of the humorous contrast between a user named "commie" being pretentious about economics. Your second comment I've spent my attention on, but there won't be a third. The supply of my attention, my demand for satisfaction from yadda-yadda-yadda balance out the way that I'm blocking you.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I missed the cause and effect.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

ah. storytelling. maybe you'll be a good priest someday.