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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If the Republicans were at all competent, they could actually have made this attack work.

Just look at Kedrick Lamar's roasting of Drake in "Not Like Us". Drake is clearly black, but he was mostly raised by a non-black mother in Canada. A lot of the emphasis in Not Like Us is how Drake has to do things like travel to Atlanta or wear clothes from Compton to pretend to fit in with black culture. So Lamar says:

"No, you not a colleague, you a fuckin' colonizer"

A very clever Republican strategist use that Harris was mostly raised by her Indian mother, how she spent her teens in Montreal, Canada, how she married a white man, how she prosecuted people for marijuana possession, and so-on to try to sow doubts about whether she really fit in.

But, they'd have to have done that using black surrogates who were seemingly not tied to the Trump campaign. Instead, they're so incompetent that they have Trump just blurt out to a Black audience that she's not really black... which instead puts everyone on her side.

[–] Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's crazy that people keep saying she prosecuted thousands upon thousands of black individuals with Marijuana charges. I swear people don't know how to Google and find out that she oversaw 1900 cases, (which was a total for her AND those under her) but only 45 went to prison for it... and those were extreme cases. I've used the LetMeGoogleThatForYou site more than I'd like to admit.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The fact that you're having to fight that fight shows that it could effectively be used by competent spin-doctors to sow doubt. The GOP in the George W. Bush era could have done it, they were ruthless and competent. They even got veterans to go against an actual veteran like John Kerry over a draft-dodger like Bush. The McCain camp could have done it -- but even then they were starting to go nuts, picking Palin as his running mate.

But, luckily, the modern GOP is increasingly incompetent. The only thing they have going for them is that Trump has a cult of personality that has somehow taken in nearly half the US electorate.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought Bush was a drug abusing deserter, not a draft dodger.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Depends how you define "draft dodger".

From what I remember, he avoided the draft by registering for the Air National Guard, then didn't bother fulfilling the duties required for that position.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Facts are cool for sure but if you're ever at the point where you realize you're speaking to someone who doesn't acknowledge facts I suggest making things up, then when they try and dismiss those claims just copy and paste the parts of their comments that dismissed your facts.

This way you force them to be the ones who have to Google things, and when they run to Google they run the risk of actually learning something, and as we all know learning is conservatism's mortal enemy.

[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Which Republican black person, who is well known, respected, and is not affiliated with Trump or MAGA, is going to do this attack on Kamala Harris, for Trump and Republicans?

They had their chance, and bungled it on a spectacular scale. Trump is taking hit after hit. Strategists know Trump's small bags of tricks. They are blame others for what you do, lie, gaslight and steal. They are ready before Trump even thinks of it.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Which Republican black person, who is well known, respected, and is not affiliated with Trump or MAGA, is going to do this attack on Kamala Harris, for Trump and Republicans?

Yeah, that's the thing, they're so toxic that such a person probably doesn't exist. But, they could probably have used some grifters who are not well known, not respected, but do have a few social media followers. They could probably have even used some of those famous Republicans who have "I'm a black woman" social media accounts that they occasionally forget to switch to before ranting. They just needed to do what the Russians do so well, and start whispers and get the lies / questions to spread.

Luckily, Trump flopped so hard that even if they started that kind of a whisper campaign now, people would know what they're seeing and probably not fall for it.