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[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 109 points 3 months ago (7 children)

As a Non-American, the fact its a close race a fucking bonkers. You guys need to get your shit together.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

If the election were by popular vote, as it should be, this wouldn't be an issue at all and Trump would have lost the first time. Our shitty system gives the hateful assholes far more representation than they should have.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're right that he would've lost the first time, but it still would've been way closer to winning than is healthy. In a sane world, 20% of the popular vote for a racist, sexist, rapist, conman thief would've been concerning.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even the popular vote gets fucked up thanks to the electoral college though. Blue voters in red states have little incentive to show up to the polls because of the EC.

Without it those voters would have more turn out.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I'm sure that's true

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

So true. The radical extremist qons and/or people that live in less important areas have far more influence than they should have. If anything, people that live in places with more people should have more influence, not less.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

So many things working against normal Americans to rig things in favor of the crazies.

[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago

Evangelicals sometimes believe that god picks Republican presidents and Satan will let Democrats win. There are others that believe in Dominionist Christianity feeling that those blessed by godjesus will be wealthy and given a position of power as gods will. We have some sad, crazy mf'ers in this country along with some really dumb, gullible people.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

As another Non-American I support this statement.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

A third of americans actively avoid politics because its “too political” (too toxic)

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As a Non-American, the fact its a close race a fucking bonkers.

As an American the fact that it's a close race is fucking bonkers. I thought it was bonkers even when the alternative was Biden.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck? You think we want it this close?

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean yes? Obviously not you but around half the people that vote somehow prefer Trump and Project 2025. And the people that don’t vote don’t care enough about it to get out of their homes and vote to keep democracy.

So yes, about 2/3 of your country seem to be ok with that scenario. Though I believe that you and many people like you don’t.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They're a goddamn cult, man. We don't even view them as American, just to be clear. They're terrorists that want fascism. The level of hatred we have for trump is bad enough that we are praising the attempted assassination.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is important to note that we don't hate trump because he's a Republican we hate him because of the horrible illegal immoral things he's done to our country.

This is not about disagreements. Trump is a threat to America. That is not rhetoric. There is proof.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, you're right. I probably should've specified that for the outsiders.