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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 18 points 4 months ago (5 children)

As Delegate of San Francisco, what should you do with these people? I think the answer is clear: alternative energy. Since wards are liabilities, there is no business case for retaining them in their present, ambulatory form. Therefore, the most profitable disposition for this dubious form of capital is to convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.

Jesus Christ

Okay, just kidding. This is the sort of naive Randian thinking which appeals instantly to a geek like me, but of course has nothing to do with real life. The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.

Oh ok, that's less(?) terrible

However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to genocide. That is: the ideal solution achieves the same result as mass murder (the removal of undesirable elements from society), but without any of the moral stigma. Perfection cannot be achieved on both these counts, but we can get closer than most might think

Jesus Christ

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.

The trouble? That's the trouble? Not the genocide, the optics of genocide?

You see, the trouble with Nazi Germany is that they didn't have a big enough PR budget.

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 15 points 4 months ago

You guys aren’t getting it. It’s like what I said in another comment about how he’ll just “straight up tell you” and you don’t need to guess what he thinks about black people. He does think the problem with Nazi Germany is that, amongst other things, they didn’t have a big enough PR budget. That’s his whole thing! His whole idea here is to tell you that genocide is good in the service of a well-run dictatorship!

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 14 points 4 months ago

Weird, naive Randian thinking seldom appeals to a geek like me. That said, I bet Ayn Rand herself would find this a tad barbaric. If for no other reason, she'd probably say buses are collectivist.

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the removal of undesirable elements from society

Let me guess who gets to decide what qualifies as undesirable

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 16 points 4 months ago

This isn’t an even a “let me guess” situation, Yarvin’s whole innovation is that he will just straight up tell you

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Speaking of the "virtualization" plan he has, did he not realize how expensive and impractical and un-immersive this would be, especially with 2008 technology?

You have to buy (and eventually repair) a shit ton of 4d VR headsets. You have to feed these guys and excercise them to make sure they don't atrophy too hard. And VR sucks ass, even now, so the entire facility would just be a shittier, smellier dark ride with a captive audience.

Isn't this just a stupider version of The Matrix? How is this guy so renowned?

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 16 points 4 months ago

How is this guy so renowned?

His rich audience are also stupid

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago

But Ready Player One had thiiis!

Come on bro, let's build the Torment Nexus alreadyy

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago

This guy is badly in need of a wedgie.