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Is defederation from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works still necessary? (beehaw.org)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by theangriestbird@beehaw.org to c/support@beehaw.org

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This is more of a question for the admins, but this can certainly be a more open discussion.

Per this thread, beehaw defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works two months ago, around the time that the reddit exodus was happening. Lemmy was blowing up, those instances had an open sign-up policy, and this meant that admins of other instances (like Beehaw) that wanted to heavily moderate their communities became quickly overwhelmed with the number of users from these two instances. Beehaw defederated to make the workload more realistic.

Two months on, I'm wondering if this defederation is still necessary. It seems to me that Lemmy overall has slowed down a lot, and maybe the flow of users from these outside servers would not be as overwhelming as it was before? I respect the decision of the admins one way or the other - I know that the lack of moderation tools was another factor in this decision. I'm just curious if this is something that has been considered recently?

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[–] sculd@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes it is. Yes it is.

If you really interact with the lemmy community you know they are very pro "freeze peach", which means it comes with all the fascists, all the phobias, and the trolls.

I like Beehaw for what it is. Tight moderation.

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy World is not a "free speech" platform.

Point 1 in the "Principles that Guide Us" section: https://lemmy.world/legal

[–] sculd@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

ok....? But it is not my experience there and from the responses here they seem to agree with me.

A principle is not useful when it is not enforced.

[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Level with me here. How many comments do you think you remove a week, and how many bans do you think you hand out? in fact, I’m pretty sure you could look at your mod actions and see how many people your mod team has banned and how many comments y’all have removed in the last, I don’t know, 15 days. I’d be very curious to hear those numbers.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is a "free speech" platform insomuch as it is intentionally making space for people with fundamentally conflicting beliefs.

There is no c/conservative on Beehaw, and many of us would not be here if there was. Extremism is not the only thing that is incompatible with my beliefs, and I get enough daily exposure to Neoliberal and Conservative viewpoints that I don't want to deal with it when I'm relaxing. It's why I haven't had Facebook or Twitter in years.

Lemmy.world and Beehaw just have different goals.