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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Different root cause, different way to correct the problem. Removing the tools doesn't solve the underlying problem. Perhaps the suicides don't happen; but that doesn't reduce the misery that leads to someone killing themselves.

And, again, this is wildly different from the violence that Trump supporters are being called to.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Removing the tools doesn’t solve the underlying problem. Perhaps the suicides don’t happen; but that doesn’t reduce the misery that leads to someone killing themselves.

Often times it leads to better outcomes though, which in the end solves the underlying problem. When people don't have an easy out and stick around long enough, usually the underlying problems get solved.

And, again, this is wildly different from the violence that Trump supporters are being called to.

Cool. I know. But it is irrelevant. Gun deaths are still gun deaths, and they should be prevented.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

usually the underlying problems get solved.

That was not my experience. My experience is that I was hung out to dry and left to figure shit out on my own. I got hospitalized, released three days later, and then had two years of absolute hell. Most of the people I've known that were involuntarily held had much the same experience; as soon as the immediate crisis has passed, there's no support.

But sure, tell me what it's like being suicidal and how it's so much better for everyone around me that I'm still here.

EDIT: I'll keep my guns, thanks. Going out to shoot and compete is one of the few things that I have in my life that I really enjoy.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

But sure, tell me what it’s like being suicidal

Nah, if you're gonna be antagonistic and gatekeepy like this, I'm not inclined to share my own experiences. You'll just find some reason to invalidate my own experiences and feelings. So I'm not gonna bother.

EDIT: I’ll keep my guns, thanks. Going out to shoot and compete is one of the few things that I have in my life that I really enjoy.

And in doing so you have significantly increased your chances of suicide.

[–] r3d0c@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 3 months ago

Weird how it works in literally every country in the world, keep lying to yourselves though