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    As a European it makes me proud to get a direct shout out from Linus 🫶🏻

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    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 81 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I mean, Linus Torvalds is an european after all.

    [–] valkyre09@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Something feels funny about “an European”. I’m pretty sure I’d say “A European”, but I have no idea what rule is triggering me to say that.

    Damn English is all over the place.

    [–] julianwgs@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I didnt even think about it, but looking it up „a European“ is correct. It‘s not about the letter, but the sound.

    Source: https://www.quora.com/Which-is-correct-%E2%80%9Ca-European%E2%80%9D-or-%E2%80%9Can-European%E2%80%9D-Why

    [–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Whenever someone types “an historic” I read it as “an istoric” in my mind.

    [–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

    And you'd be right to do so!

    [–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

    I read that in a French accent

    [–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I disagree. It just marks the break between two vowel sounds. In English we just happen to write it down when necessary. French does this too, but in the opposite direction. As a general rule, one does not pronounce the last consonant of a word except in instances where two vowel sounds meet. In these cases, the first word's consonant links into the second word

    [–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

    Lmao alright fair play

    [–] Bezier@suppo.fi 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

    !yurop@lemm.ee

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Damn English is all over the place.

    it absolutely is.

    [–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

    Imperialism does that.

    [–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    English spelling doesn't match sound, it's about sound

    European is (depending on exact dialect) /ˌjoː.ɹəˈpɪ.jan/, so it begins with a consonant. So you don't need "an"

    [–] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    It's most likely because you don't pronounce a vowel at the front of the word, even if you write one.

    [–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    He’s a naturalised American citizen as of a decade or two ago, IIRC.

    [–] FreeFacts@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Has a dual citizenship of Finland and the USA, so still a European citizen too.

    [–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Wouldn’t he have had to renounce his Finnish citizenship to be naturalised?

    In any case, as he’s based in the US, the European culture of taking an entire month off a year, and of almost everyone in the same country taking time off at the same time and things shutting down for a month, wouldn’t be something he participates in. Even if he had 30 days of leave a year and took all of July off, in the US that would be a personal idiosyncracy (“that’s just Linus being Linus”) rather than a mass cultural phenomenon.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Wouldn’t he have had to renounce his Finnish citizenship to be naturalised?

    You can be a citizen of multiple countries at the same time, as long as all of them allow dual/multiple citizenship.

    [–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    The US used to require new citizens to renounce other nationalities, and I haven’t heard of them changing this. Rupert Murdoch had to renounce his Australian citizenship when he became a US citizen in the 80s. I think Linus was naturalised in the 90s or 00s, so not too long after.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/before-you-go/travelers-with-special-considerations/Dual-Nationality-Travelers.html says that dual citizenship is allowed. From that page:

    How Do You Get Dual Nationality?
    ...
    Naturalizing as a U.S. citizen while keeping the nationality of another country.

    Wikipedia says:

    Since 1990, the State Department has allowed multiple nationalities.[130] Official policy is one of recognition that such a status exists, but the U.S. government does not endorse a policy of having multiple nationalities, though it is permitted.[151]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law#Dual_nationality

    [–] potkulautapaprika@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Kinda weird that it seems weird there that working for a year earns you 4 weeks off. Probably something to do with workers unions.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 4 months ago

    This is what we have in Australia. It's mandatory to get at least 20 days (4 work weeks) of PTO per year.

    [–] exu@feditown.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    What does naturalised mean in that context?

    Sounds like a label you'd put on meat or vegetables.

    [–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    He got a citizenship after the fact, rather thab by the virtue of his birth (on US soil or to a US citizen parent). More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] kender242@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

    Portland Oregon