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Restaurant in NYC offshores cashier job to Philippines so they can pay below minimum wage ($3/hr in Philippines) (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 4 months ago by chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Everything in the US is already expensive, that "great wage going to a Filipino/a" is at the expense of a person in their own hometown not having a job.

Too bad? Put the shoe on your other foot. If we in the US ban imported rice to protect our farmers, would you and friends feel comfortable in that time things take to adjust? The loss of income?

How far does $6/day go in the Philippines? I can tell you how far it goes in NYC.

[–] rekorse@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Things in america should be more expensive. We do not pay for the full cost of what all of our goods and services cost, mainly due to exploitative measures like in this post.

You can double down all you want but the real answer is that we just shouldn't be able to buy nearly as much stuff as we do. We love being consumers anf watching the trash heap grow, while we take advantage of anyone smaller than us in any remote corner of the Earth.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At no point have I ever said our excessive consumerism is good, only that people shouldn't be competing internationally for an in-person job.

Having been raised in NYC, I can tell you directly that the job market is a bit fierce, and I think offshoring basic service jobs is terrible for everyone involved, owner included.

[–] rekorse@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree with your post but wanted to add that I think we are starting to realize the effects of cutting out relationships with people in our community.

I suppose thats just another aspect of offshoring that is problematic.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It's a race to the bottom, which I'd call a systematic bug.

Who's buying anything fun when nobody has a job? So yeah, I agree with what you're saying too.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t know what to think because I want everyone to win, but it’s hard to deny I’m biased towards my countrymen here stateside.

Re-reading my comment, did it sound like I meant:

it’s too bad this job is being outsourced

psh, too bad, this is the reality of a global world!

I did mean the first one.

I should want everyone to win but I’m biased towards Americans in situations like this - and I don’t know if I can justify it, if I can universalize the maxim.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I understood you meant the first one. I'm also biased towards the people of my former home city.

There are several sources that collude to raise prices for the average New Yorker, rent and food amongst them. I'm not at all blaming the lady taking the job remotely, there is pain in financing & operating the business, for the employees in getting to and from, and getting paid close to what their work is actually worth.

The bitch is that none of this system is voluntary. Work or starve, how inhumane.