politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
view the rest of the comments
A friend of mine has right-wing parents who were Trump boosters in 2016. He says that January 6th left them aghast, and they aren't supporting him now. That's just two people sure, and this is entirely anecdotal, but it might be indicative of how the wind is blowing.
30% of the people voting in the GOP primary said they wouldn’t necessarily vote for the eventual nominee.
That is a massive and highly unusual number. And, just like so many other things, nobody fuckin knows that, because the media has a code of silence about it like a JV hockey team that just doesn’t talk about Logan’s sex crimes.
They just keep reporting polls of all registered voters who want to answer the phone, trying to correct their ratios and not bothering to try to ascertain who’s likely to vote, and then swearing that 2 point up or down differences in the resulting number are super important.
4 years ago there were a lot of houses with Trump/Pence signs in my neighborhood. Most of them removed their signs after the elections except for a few that had the whole combo police lives matters and don't thread on me and stuff like that. After jan 6 even those houses removed their signs (and all others) and this year I have not seen any Trump sign in any backyard in the area.
It turns out, a lot of people do feel a bit of shame for the way they vote.
Not like that they actually feel bad for fucking over so many people, but they don't like looking like they are helping so many people getting fucked over.
Nudist trumpers?
This is what I don't get. There is so much less trump enthusiasm in Michigan than in 2020. It's all fucking anecdotal, so go with the data over my observations, but I just can't see any sign that Trump is a force here.
I've seen like 2 Trump bumper stickers and not a single yard sign (I'll give you the place that literally has his name painted on their garage), which is fucking insane when 3-4 years ago you couldn't get in your car without seeing at least one yard sign or bumper sticker.
Four years ago, my wife got so much shit for being the only liberal in an office of good ol' boys. Now, absolutely nothing. I cannot comprehend that the polling reflects none of this.
They've learned it leads to social isolation. I know a lot of young men learned they can't get laid if they're vocal about Trump. I'm not saying these people learned empathy they just learned to put the mask back on.
Do people really leave political signs up after elections, though?
Dude I saw a faded-ass 'Bush / Cheney' sticker on the way home today. Cult is as cult does.
Well, bumper stickers are one thing, but leaving them posted in your yard? Weird.
They still fly the flags from their lifted trucks where I live. But yeah it's declined a lot.
I kinda want to get old bumper stickers and put them up. I wonder if I can find one for Jimmy Carter
A certain neighbor of mine does. Makes the neighborhood look ugly.
Apparently, there were a lot around where I live too. I dont get it personally, but im not a dude who would put up a political sign to begin with.
Some people still have some values. 34 felonies, rape, and paying hush money to a porn star you had sex with while your pregnant wife was at home is enough to cost some votes. I don't care if they vote for Biden, as long as they don't show up and vote for mr 34 felonies it's a win for America.
Not voting for the opponent in a two-party race is like a half vote for the other guy, but wouldn't it be nice if they came around and gave Biden a full vote each?
Absolutely, but I'm still good with a red voter not voting red.
I think trump needs to address his electability questions. He hasn't had any interviews that properly address his issues, just scripted ones with interviewers that like him.
Just today I've seen people calling for him to step down so another candidate without his issues can be nominated. He'll have to do that if voters continue to lose confidence in him.
You forgot the /s
Have you considered that they're liars?
I understand this impulse. It is popular to demonize people on the other side, and truthfully, their voting for Trump in the past is a severe issue. They once in a while ask me for computer help, but this whole matter has made me reluctant to do it.
I'm not going to call them good people because voting for Trump has identified them as not being among those. But in some ways they're decent? They don't think they're evil. They don't stab people in the back personally. They work hard. They're honest face-to-face. it's mostly on the national stage that their odious beliefs are brought out.
There are lots of people like that here. I feel like, if they can be brought to see, viscerally, what the effects of their political decisions are, that could be the breaking point that changes their political beliefs. January 6th might have been one such event.