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If Biden 'Must Step Aside,' Why Aren't Democrats Filling the Streets to Demand It?
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Of course they’re not running, of course they’ve backed Biden. Not openly backing Biden is a sure way to be blacklisted in the Democratic Party
Also, if you read my post, you did exactly what I said you would do (“That’s a menu not a plan”). All your complaints are caused by the DNC. They cancelled the primaries, they rallied behind Biden before primaries happened despite many folks screaming they didn’t want him. And there were other candidates, but they didn’t get a chance because most state Democratic Parties refused to put them on ballots. Not wanting to have voters have their say in a candidate, what’s that sound like?
Also, wake up call: Trump will never be behind bars. And when he dies, he’s going to be replaced by someone with the same rhetoric and the brains to implement it. Everyone keeps talking about how “we have to vote this way or fascism wins”. I agree with that. But what people aren’t acknowledging is that the Democrats are slowing slipping into fascism as well. And the “you gotta vote for this guy” rhetoric makes it worse, not better.
I love your “you might actually a fascist, not a progressive” talk. I hear it super often from Biden or die types. I also heard it when I begrudgingly voted for Hillary, and then Biden the first time. I’ve caucused for Bernie, twice. I’ve been part of my county’s policy committee for the last 7 years. I will be voting Democrat for almost every single down ticket election. Hell, I’m literally going to a fundraiser Saturday for 2 local Democrats because one of them was one of the only Dems in my state to actually defend trans rights while Republicans (successfully) began to strip them away. You know, the exact things that just got passed through the Democrat-controlled Armed Services committee and supported by the majority of Democrats on the committee? The thing that Biden just started backsliding on? Yea, as a trans person you’ll have to excuse my absolute frustration and anger in watching the Democratic Party, yet again, slide to the right.
You're right, I stopped reading after you got mad at me for not accepting your bullshit answer and then gave me a bullshit answer.
You're the one backing Trump. Your arguments are invalid.
Yup, you’re right. I don’t like Biden, therefore my queer ass is clearly a fascist.
And you wonder why people aren’t swayed by your argument.
You're attacking Biden so Trump can win. I don't like Biden, either, but Trump is worse. Your agenda is transparent.
People keep saying this like people just started attacking Biden. I’ve been saying this since December 2020. A lot of people have.
And I’ve said this before: Republicans have a supermajority in my state. The national elections don’t make a lick of difference to me because even if Biden is elected, Project 2025 is coming to my state. And Biden won’t stop it. There aren’t many national Democrats that will. Like you know what they did with abortion in 2021? Yea, nothing.
That being said, I’m not advocating for people not voting. I think every single person who is eligible should vote whether I agree with their vote for not. I just refuse to vote against my own best interest, and that includes Biden.
So Trump is in your best interest? Because it is an either/or situation.
No, it’s not. And pushing that narrative is why we’re in this shitty mess.
My state will go for Trump. It went for Trump in 2020 by a wide margin. I will not be voting for Biden, I’ll be voting De La Cruz, probably.
Wait, you think De La Cruz can win? The entire election? Is that really what you expect anyone else to believe?
Or you think your protest vote will mean something, and you feel comfortable throwing your vote away because it won't matter and Trump will win regardless?
Because you might be right about that, but that's a different argument than telling people not to vote for Biden.
Nope, De la Cruz will not win, I’m not stupid. But if my vote for Biden is going to get overridden by others in my state, I might as well vote for the person I actually agree with.
And I have never told anyone not to vote for Biden. I’ve presented why I am not voting for Biden. But most people on here seem hell-bent that anyone criticizing Biden must be a fascist Trump plant.