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Is defederation from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works still necessary? (beehaw.org)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by theangriestbird@beehaw.org to c/support@beehaw.org
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This is more of a question for the admins, but this can certainly be a more open discussion.

Per this thread, beehaw defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works two months ago, around the time that the reddit exodus was happening. Lemmy was blowing up, those instances had an open sign-up policy, and this meant that admins of other instances (like Beehaw) that wanted to heavily moderate their communities became quickly overwhelmed with the number of users from these two instances. Beehaw defederated to make the workload more realistic.

Two months on, I'm wondering if this defederation is still necessary. It seems to me that Lemmy overall has slowed down a lot, and maybe the flow of users from these outside servers would not be as overwhelming as it was before? I respect the decision of the admins one way or the other - I know that the lack of moderation tools was another factor in this decision. I'm just curious if this is something that has been considered recently?

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[–] gaytswiftfan@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

stay defederated. even now whenever I see some transphobic or hateful comment it's because I accidentally browsed all

edit: apologies everyone!!! it's called "Everything" 🀦 I'm sorry for the confusion I feel dumb now

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All only shows content from instances that Beehaw is federated with, FYI.

[–] can@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And, it's only communities someone on beehaw has specifically subscribed to. Communities from federated instances won't show up in all if no one from beehaw has ever subscribed to them.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hm, if someone subscribes to a federated community, and then unsubscribes, does it keep getting pulled in?

[–] can@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure. Once the connection has been made I'd assume it stays but I haven't verified.

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is there a way to see all the communities on your instances c/all?

Edit: Nvm it is at the top of the page.

[–] can@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure actually, but that's a good idea.

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found it. You have to press the communities tab at the top of your instance and press all

[–] can@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you.

[–] gaytswiftfan@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

yeah my bad I looked and it's actually called "Everything"

[–] can@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All on beehaw? Because if so those aren't from the instances we're talking about.

[–] gaytswiftfan@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

no all on sync. it shows like lemmy.ml and stuff. tbf idrk how this works

edit: I'm so sorry it's actually called everything

[–] can@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's still "all". Sync just calls it everything.

but that's still beehaw

If you're signed into Beehaw you won't see lemmy.world content anywhere (including in all/everything).

If you sign with an account from somewhere else that "everything" feed will be different.

"Local" is communities only from your signed in instance. "All" will include posts from communities anyone from your instance has subscribed to (and they can only subscribe to communities from federated instances).

[–] gaytswiftfan@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what? i never claimed to see lemmy.world I said other instances... it shows @lemmy.ml etc

[–] can@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

How does that relate to staying defederated then? Or are you calling for more of it? I don't care either way, just curious.

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

stay defederated. even now whenever I see some transphobic or hateful comment it’s because I accidentally browsed all

Do report if you see anything like this, it can help us block communities and talk to other admins to get those communities deleted.

[–] gaytswiftfan@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will !! ❀️

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you ❀