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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I still don't know if the attention on this is a good or a bad thing

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I suspect it's a good thing. Conservatives don't search for things that discredit their views. And I doubt their media is playing this up as anything that deserves attention. It's probably mentioned as a thing to be ignored. I have no factual basis for my suspicions. I could be completely wrong.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

my conservative friends and family from the garbage can i grew up in very much like this sort of thing, and probably see it as a justification to vote for sexual dingus trump.

im hoping it will force more democrat voters to go outside.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives don’t search for things that discredit their view.

I think you're right here but I think we can all be very much like that. Using trump and conservatives as a reference to what we all do, no one Googles "is trump bad." No, we already know the answer to what we think about that. Instead, we google something like "trump is the best" which (along with our personalised algorithm, designed to tell us what we want to hear so we keep engaged) tells us all about how trump is the best.

I think one thing that might help anyone who wants to de-program trumpers, along with the parts that are their own fault, they genuinely are victims of the algorithm they're trapped in. I mean, we all are but right wingers, being right wingers, rarely have the self awareness needed to adjust for it. Theyre amongst the groups most disenfranchised and exploited by these things. It doesn't absolve them of blame but, imo, its more complicated than a lot of people make out.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

we google something like "trump is the best" which (along with our personalised algorithm, designed to tell us what we want to hear so we keep engaged) tells us all about how trump is the best.

Nobody googles anything like that, and googling "is x good/bad?" Isn't really how you use Google unless you're researching products or something. This is a lazy attempt at an example.

It seems to me that, if we're using web searches as an indicator, that those on the left have no problem earnestly researching the answers to questions like "Is transgender healthcare harmful to children?", or "what are the pros and cons of privatizing x?", where some of the answers might not perfectly validate our existing worldview, but we still walk away with a nuanced opinion based on what we learned.

Conservatives on the other hand would never even consider asking questions like "are they cutting little boys dicks off because they like the color pink?" or "are half of all murders really committed by Black people?", they will just believe it in their heart of hearts because they saw memes about it on Truth Social.

In fact, if they did muster the willpower to type such a query into Google, every single article that doesn't validate them would be declared some sort of leftist hoax, and Google would be blamed as another woke tech company deliberately serving content that challenges a right wing view.

These people are completely brainwashed, and it is no surprise that they heavily trend Christian, since Christianity as an ethos demands that you be able to resist asking questions critical of God, as certain questions are an insult to God. It's rather trivial to exploit this vulnerability in critical thinking, which is why so many Conservatives seem to have no line between their religious beliefs and their political beliefs, and both sets of beliefs end up being completely fucking unhinged and filled to the brim with magical thinking.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I love how you declared my example to be lazy, only to then make, essentially, the same example again. Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying that I disagree with me.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I called you lazy and then said what you attempted to say with better clarity and verbosity.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I said it just fine. The problem is you lack of self awareness and poor social skills.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago

It's a good thing, much of the things included are unpopular, even by conservatives

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Good thing. Despite how it sometimes feels, most Americans aren't hateful pieces of shit and don't support this crap. It's just hard to get them to go out and vote.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the conservative folks i know don't see conservative policy as being hateful

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Of course not. Nobody thinks they're the bad guy. It takes an outside perspective to know.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

It’s just hard to get them to go out and vote.

it would be a lot easier if the dnc didn't suppress popular candidates in favor of candidates with decades long histories of conservative bona fides.