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Is defederation from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works still necessary? (beehaw.org)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by theangriestbird@beehaw.org to c/support@beehaw.org
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This is more of a question for the admins, but this can certainly be a more open discussion.

Per this thread, beehaw defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works two months ago, around the time that the reddit exodus was happening. Lemmy was blowing up, those instances had an open sign-up policy, and this meant that admins of other instances (like Beehaw) that wanted to heavily moderate their communities became quickly overwhelmed with the number of users from these two instances. Beehaw defederated to make the workload more realistic.

Two months on, I'm wondering if this defederation is still necessary. It seems to me that Lemmy overall has slowed down a lot, and maybe the flow of users from these outside servers would not be as overwhelming as it was before? I respect the decision of the admins one way or the other - I know that the lack of moderation tools was another factor in this decision. I'm just curious if this is something that has been considered recently?

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[–] nuke@yah.lol 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The admins are at the very least sympathetic towards fascists

Example?

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FYI that link doesn't work for us beehaw folks - the link you used is specifically for kbin users to view lemmy.world.

[–] nuke@yah.lol 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's linking to his own comment. There is no actual example.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s a comment I’d made previously that covers the same topic. Sorry for not annotating my life enough for your convenience

[–] can@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

The comment would be more useful if you linked to the threads you reference in it.

[–] admin@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a comment I’d made previously that covers the same topic.

Would you mind doing a copy/paste of that comment here?

[–] can@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There was a thread dunking on Nazis and an admin came in, locked the thread and told people to be nice to everyone regardless of their ideology. They refused to defederate from exploding heads for a very long time, preemptively defederated from hexbear (whatever your thoughts about the instance it’s deeply weird they didn’t want to defed the Nazis but immediately defederated from the weirdo lefties)

The guy who blew the whistle on the piracy forums was an out and obvious nazi. They didn’t ban him after his obvious naziness went on display.

It’s not really an outlandish thing to suggest. They clearly are much more biased towards fascists than leftists, at the very least - which is highly questionable and problematic on a leftist-literally-by-design site.

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you talking about /c/conservative on Lemmy World? That moderator was instantly banned from Lemmy World and the community was handed over to a different mod team.

This is the thread: https://lemmy.world/post/136470

[–] can@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not my comment, I was just quoting it here since the original commenter linked to their comment on kbin which isn't terribly useful to users here. You'd have to ask @AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social

[–] admin@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you.

[–] nuke@yah.lol 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How does that cover it though? There's no further evidence in that comment either. Are we supposed to just take your word for it?

[–] nuke@yah.lol 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love how your example is just you linking to your own comment.