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[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

We get it, he's old. But we should 100% be putting the effort of talking about how he's old into raising the alarm about Trump.

Concern about Biden should pale in comparison to the concern people should have about a potential Trump term.

Biden might run, he might get replaced. Either way him or really ANY potential Democratic replacement are a thousand times better than Trump.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 23 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Bruh we been raising the alarm about Trump for the past 8 years. It doesn't move the needle. You know what does? A compelling alternative. The problem is, the way the primary is set up, only Joe Biden himself can make the choice to replace Biden on the ticket. He has the votes (thanks to running mostly unopposed), so the party can't actually do anything without Joe's consent. Many (including me) are still concerned that Biden should not be trailing Trump at all in the polls, given how many forces are running against Trump. This is why you continue to hear calls to replace Biden. Yes, you and me are going to vote Blue not matter who. But my moderate uncle in Wisconsin will not, and he's the kind of voter that is going to decide this election. And you can say all you want about Project 2025 or felony convictions or whatever. These moderates are stuck on the idea that this election is simply "the old guy vs. the rude guy, again", and raising the alarm about Trump just sounds like more liberal-whinging to these people.

[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I mean, you are correct also. These are all good points.

But it's just becoming the only thing people are talking about, at a time where pretty major trump news (Epstein papers) should be the major talking point. It's overshadowing everything.

[–] chaos@beehaw.org 4 points 4 months ago

"The US President might be in cognitive decline" is a massive news story, as is "The only opponent to a fascist is one more bad night away from his campaign completely imploding," and also "the President's own party says behind closed doors that he's in massive trouble, but is sticking with him in public."

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