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[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Considering that Netanyahu was having corruption charges levied against him before October 7th... well, from the Israelis I've talked to, the intelligence was there to prevent the attack, and the brass let it happen. War time leaders tend to hold on to power a lot easier. In addition to the gas deposits off the Gazan coast, and the whole beach front property development thing that Israeli corporations are advertising. It's terrible what has been happening in Gaza and the West Bank (obviously) BUUUT, I mean, they're surrounded by much larger countries that are hostile to them. WHY they are hostile, well, that is where cracking open a history book comes in.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

Netanyahu is just the latest in a long list of demons, the invasion of Palestine didn't start on October 7th.

[–] goldenex@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Terrible is understanding what have been done this will go as the crime of sententry

[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, it is the classic cycle of human hate right. I talked to a (gorgeous, I will add, sue me, I like pretty girls) Israeli girl for a few months after Oct 7th. Hearing her perspective of things was educating. If I was on a date and had someone at the table next to me get stabbed in the neck by a random passerby, I would be a bit jaded as well. Having regular alarms to hide from missile attacks etc. Obviously, genocide bad. The Palestinians have it far worse, and are being used as proxies by Iran because of the whole mini-cold war that has been going on in the middle east for a while. However, life is rarely black and white. Unless it's like serial killer/rapist/torturer/illuminati shit. Deprogramming generational hatred on an individual basis takes a great degree of patience and understanding of nuance. Calling all Israelis evil monsters is NOT how you fix the problem, my 2 cents.

I will leave this song here as an example of the Israeli perspective, I thought it was pretty spicy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUMl58i4m0w

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In conversations like this where there is a never ending tit-for-tat of violent revenge I wonder why humans in gerneral just can’t stop being shitheads. Palestinians are treated like third-class people, their land slowly stolen, and face constant prejudice. So of course that fuels the violence towards Israel. Then Israel treats Palestinians like shit, and the cycle never stops. Why we have to dig our heels and force the other side to cede first like a couple 5 year olds arguing.