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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The issue isn't that Biden stands in the way, its that no one is actually building up a reasonable alternative.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You need to actually have a real alternative to Biden that enough people can agree with. Kamala, Newcom, Buttigieg seem to be losing out in early discussions and they're the best chance to an alternative. Find someone, hype them up and seriously push them as an alternative.

I'm not against Biden, but I'm not necessarily against change either. I'm also not a Democrat, but I want to see a reasonable candidate to vote for as much as anyone else. But unless you can prove to me that the next person to step up is someone reasonable (if someone spends like 15 posts pushing lol Bernie Sanders at me like last time this topic was brought up... so help me... an even older man who disagrees with my politics is the last one I'd be voting for)

Pick someone, push them forward. Good luck. If you can't do that, I'm holding my support for Biden because yall fools don't have anyone else. If you can do that (and if I agree with your choice), then and only then can we move forward.


The idea that you want Biden to step out before a reasonable alternative is lined up is fucking insane. Start hyping people today, no need for Biden to step aside as you try to build up support to someone else.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hell, if there was a viable candidate who actually wanted to be the Democratic nominee they could've run just like Dean Phillips and Mariann Williamson did. Biden/Democratic leadership didn't prevent anyone from running against Biden. I would've been happy to see Witmer, Newsome, Shapiro, etc announce their candidacy a year ago, but they made the decision not to do so. That hasn't changed. If someone changes their mind I'm all ears, but until then I'm not going to help conservatives by calling for Biden to step down.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Whitmer would be good if she wanted to step up. The main issue with Governors is that they are busy governing.

It shouldn't be too hard to get a back-room deal between Whitmer or Shapiro to coordinate an announcement with Biden though. But what they'd need is public support before they start that push.

Make it real obvious that we'd vote for Whitmer or Shapiro (both look serious and Id vote for them over Biden and Trump). And we can start there. Let the elites figure out things afterwards.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And we also need clarification on who the hell can access Biden's campaign funds if he does step aside. Ive seen some pundits claim that only Harris can access that money, if that's true I kind of think we're done looking. It would have to be her, even if she isn't the best option. I'm not a campaign finance expert though.

And I think Witmer would landslide if she was the nominee. She's really well spoken, has done some great shit in Michigan, has full control of her bowel movements probably, and having a woman at the top of the ticket when women's healthcare is such a hot issue is a recipe for success.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

And I think Witmer would landslide if she was the nominee. She’s really well spoken, has done some great shit in Michigan, has full control of her bowel movements probably, and having a woman at the top of the ticket when women’s healthcare is such a hot issue is a recipe for success.

Every candidate loses 20 IQ when they enter the national stage and have to dumb down their political message to match a larger audience.

Its a difficult thing to do. Running on the national stage is very different than running locally. Ideally we'd have seen how any of these candidates do a year or two ago, but there's not enough time for that anymore.